5 years of support..!!??
Girard Henri
girardhenri at free.fr
Tue Mar 6 12:14:23 UTC 2012
Me too... kde-4.8 works fine on 12.04
Le 06/03/2012 11:52, Dale Trombley a écrit :
>
> Just need to add my 2 cents. I'm currently running 11.10 on 10
> machines (also undocumented). My wife's, her three kids (ages 17, 13,
> 7) my moms (about 65) my dad in-law (74 I think) my kid (14) my bro
> (44) my niece (23 and using it in college) etc. I'm running 12.04 dev
> on mine as my primary (I know I know lol) and they are all running
> great and they're all very happy with it. I love the icons only task
> manager in 12.04. And everyone else I have smooth-tasks installed. My
> dad in-law (in his 70's) installed and admins his own Kubuntu system.
> These aren't the 10.04 that you are complaining about but it shows I
> think that each release improves tenfold over the other at least since
> kde4.x was started. Perhaps an upgrade is a good call for you. 12.04
> will be released soon and I highly recommend it to everyone.
>
> On Mar 5, 2012 11:00 PM, "Bruce Bales" <bbales at cox.net
> <mailto:bbales at cox.net>> wrote:
>
> On 03/05/2012 03:02 PM, rterry at pacific.net.au
> <mailto:rterry at pacific.net.au> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 06 March 2012 02:36:31 Bruce Bales wrote:
>
> On 03/05/2012 05:07 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote:
>
> On Mar 5, 2012 2:33 AM, "James
> Cain"<james.cain.25 at gmail.com
> <mailto:james.cain.25 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:james.cain.25 at gmail. com
> <mailto:james.cain.25 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Leslie Anne
> Chatterton
> <lahc2007 at gmail.com
> <mailto:lahc2007 at gmail.com><mailto:lah
> c2007 at gmail.com <mailto:lahc2007 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> Well I guess Kubuntu isn't for everyone
> and we need to hear
> experiences like yours to bring us back to
> reality. I think
> there are
> probably lots of Windows and Mac users who
> have had similarly
> frustrating experiences but don't want to
> speak up and appear
> like
> dummies. Linux will become mainstream only
> when it offers a
> "foolproof" edition that is unbreakable,
> as well as the
> tinkerer's
> versions that most of us now enjoy.
>
>
>
> Good point in pointing out that we need
> brought back to reality
> now and again :)
> However, 3 key points here that we free
> software users
> occasionally need reminded of:
>
> * Kubuntu is developed (99%) by
> volunteers. For those who
> rant and rave about how nothing works,
> if you can't donate
> to the KDE e.V., help the community, or
> at least report
> bugs (if not triage them), what gives
> you the right to
> complain at all?
>
> A few years ago there was lots of talk about "Linux on the
> desktop,"
> where the intention
> was that everyone could use the open source Linux and be
> free from
> Microsoft. I write a
> newsletter that goes to 165 former High School classmates.
> All use
> Windows or Macs
> and I am certain that none could install and configure and
> be satisfied
> using Kubuntu 10-4.
> If it is unusable, should we complain?
> bruce
>
> That's almost enough to start a flame war!
>
> Kubuntu 10-4 is very very stable.
>
> I've had a number of my windows friends install this on their
> machines and
> were blown away by how easy it was to install, how quick the
> install was
> compared to Windows.
>
> Yes, like any new operating system one has to learn a slightly
> different way of
> getting around, but the same applies to Macs for windows users.
>
> None of your 165 high school mates would need linux to read a
> newsletter you
> wrote on a linux machine!
>
> A number of my windows based friends - tired of the perpetual
> problem with
> malware and virus's are now running Kubuntu side by side on a
> separate box on
> their desktop doing the comparison.
>
> I suspect there are a huge number of 'silent' linux users out
> there like
> myself, who have never registered with the wider community
> that they run linux
> - as mentioned in a previous post I have (let me do an
> accurate mental count)
> 10 machines here at work including 2 servers and 1 laptop and
> 1 server at home
> running linux - all uncounted in the grand stats).
>
> I'd be keen for you to list all the unsuable features of a
> linux desktop.
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
>
> Sorry, Richard. I guess I wasn't clear about my own computing. I
> use Linux
> and have for over ten years and my only use of Windows was once at my
> son's house I used the browser for a bit. My 165 classmates have
> no problems
> with my emails. You don't have to sell me on Linux.
>
> My problem is that Kubuntu 10.04 is very difficult to use compared
> to Kubuntu
> 8.04. And was harder to install. In fact I had to procure
> another computer
> because neither 9.04 nor 9.10 nor 10.04 would install on my Dell
> Dimension
> 2400. And the live CD would not run.
> I don't like it that my email client (kmail) is unusable and
> Thunderbird only
> a little better. Is it possible that Thunderbird really doesn't
> have a word-wrap
> function? With kmail you could set it for the width you wanted.
>
> I don't like it that the names of the programs in the tray at the
> bottom of
> my screen don't show the name of the program, but show file name,
> which
> changes when I look at another file; (I want to see "Firefox" and not
> "Snopes.com". I don't like the program names in the tray to be
> transparent
> making them harder to read. When the mouse passes over one of these
> names in the tray a small worthless panel jumps up, covering all
> underneath.
> When I have been writing an email and click on the Thunderbird
> icon at the bottom,
> a double panel pops up showing the inbox and the drafts box. When I
> select one of these the double panel is no longer needed, but it
> stays up, blocking
> whatever is behind it.
>
> I made a panel on the left side to keep the icons representing my
> most used
> programs. The panel is fixed width, the icons can't be changed
> (with 8.04 I
> could make my own icon -- something I could recognize).The icons
> can't be
> rearranged.
> With 8.04, the tray was a double-decker, so there was room for
> more programs
> there. Am I the only one who has eight programs open at once?
>
> I haven't had much time to try gimp -- just enough to find that It
> doesn't work
> like it did. More relearning to do.
>
> bruce
>
>
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