mikemcginn at mcginnweb.net
Tue Feb 7 00:23:40 UTC 2012
On Monday, February 06, 2012 14:56:08 Valter Mura wrote:
> In data sabato 4 febbraio 2012 11:28:16, Mark Greenwood ha scritto:
> > On 4 Feb 2012, at 06:09, Steve Riley wrote:
> > > On 2012-02-03 23:34:00 Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > >> C'Mon peopleâŠ. email is over 40 years old. It's no longer rocket
> > >> science, it's an everyday activity. If it's this difficult to
> > >> configure a client then something is very wrong with the client in
> > >> terms of fundamental design. This shouldn't be tolerated in something
> > >> which is released for general use. Shame on you, Kubuntu.
> > >
> > > Well, I wouldn't be so quick to fault Kubuntu. Were I to engage in a
> > > bit of
> > > blamestorming, I'd throw some in Google's direction. If their IMAP
> > > were, oh I dunno, _standard_ or something like that, then maybe we
> > > wouldn't have so many problems.
> > Works fine with Thunderbird and Apple Mail. And I don't think the fact
> > the account wizard doesn't work, or the fact you have to do a sync,
> > close KMail, then reopen it change yet more settings can be blamed on
> > Google.
> > Like I said. In Apple Mail and Thunderbird the setup procedure is : Enter
> > email address and password. That's it. That's how it should be these
> > days. Setting up KMail is like setting up email used to be in 1990. It's
> > not good enough, and KMail used to be really good indeed. KDE4 seems to
> > have so much emphasis on superficial bells and whistles while anything
> > approaching functionality has been left till last. It really has all
> > gone a bit Windows.
> Mark, you're right and I agree with you. I have TB setup and ready to use
> (just in case...)
> But, as Kmail is KDE native, and I work in the localization team, and I
> need to try the Kde apps to check them and to file bugs, and also because
> I like Kontact and Kmail, I "do want" to use them, even if I have to
> struggle for their use and to understand and help, if possible, the other
> users in the use.
> Of course, I cannot suggest Kmail for production use at its current state,
> at work people cannot permit to lose mails or wait hours after an upgrade.
> That said, after Steve's suggestions, the system started to work quite
> smooth and fast, even if I dedicated 350 MB of 1 GB RAM to Nepomuk, and I
> have an "ancient" system (PIV 2.8 ghz / 1 GB Ram / 512 MB video card).
> One thing that TB has and for which I want to file a wish for Kmail, is the
> possibility to decide how many months the program must check and sync the
> server's mail.
I appreciate your candor. I have been using Kontact for almost ten years now,
I have thousands of email stored in it, I have hundreds of filters set up and
there is the matter of my address book. Moving to Thunderbird would be a
nightmare, but I am seriously considering. I run 4.4.8 under KDE 4.4.5. The
whole Akanodi thing has never worked right, I had to hack to get it to start
at the start of the KDE session, I have never been able to sync with my Google
calender and it seems that newer releases just keep getting worse. I run
Kubuntu LTS and was hoping the next version would bring some improvement, now
it would seem that the opposite would be true.
I am a CTO in my day job and at this point if I got a resume listing the kde-
pim project as experience I would not even grant an interview.
Mike McGinn FACOCM
Ex Uno Plurima
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