Konq 4 chat

[Michael Hirsch]

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Derek Broughton <derek at pointerstop.ca> wrote:
> marc wrote:
>
>> Michael Hirsch said:
>>
>>> List night I finally tried out KDE4.  I've been using 3.5 on jaunty
>>> until now.  First thing I did was make Konqueror my file browser, but it
>>> seems dumbed down, just like dolphin.
>>>
>>> First thing I see is that there are only 3 views available: icons,
>>> details and columns.  What happened to tree view?  list view?  Photo
>>> album view?  An I missing a configuration somewhere?
>>>
>>> Those are the same 3 views dolphin offers.  It dolphin actually running
>>> as a kpart in konq?  Oh dear.
>
> Yes.  This is a good thing.

In principle, I agree.  But only if dolphin continues to grow and
become as good a file manager as konqueror was in 3.5.

>> I think that they are now just different wrappers around the same lib.
>> Nothing wrong there, if only they hadn't thrown away so much
>> functionality.
>
> I'm still waiting to hear what constitutes "so much".

Some of it seems to be bad default configuration.  Why does konqueror
no longer have Back, Up and Forward buttons by default?  Yes, I can
put them back but how useful is it to have a browser without them.
And I really like that konq has an up button.  That comes, I think,
from the fact that it is a file browser, but I use it all the time
when browsing web sites--especially file repositories, but it is
useful for looking at many RESTful apps.  I miss it when I'm in
Firefox.

> Michael is partly
> right, I believe - there are no File Size view & Album View (as defaults, at
> least).  Tree view has been implemented differently, so requires you to turn
> on an option in Konqueror settings (In the file manager settings - from
> either Dolphin or Konqueror - select "Views", "Details" and check
> "expandable folders").

Hey, thanks for the tip.  Now I have tree view.  Konq had many views,
most of which I didn't use, but someone probably did.  I'm still
looking for my photo album view (of which 3.5 konqueror how two
variations--I'd settle for either one).

> Also, I have a "subversion view" available, because
> I installed kdesvn, so other views may be available by installing optional
> components - I haven't looked.

The fact that that kind of extensibility is possible makes me hopeful
that konq and the dolphin kpart will continue to grow and become as
handy to me as it one was.

Michael