restarting the video

Ric Moore wayward4now at
Wed May 20 19:35:11 UTC 2009

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 19:20 +0200, Donn wrote:
> On Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:56:28 Michael wrote:
> > Apparently there are quite a few things that aren't reliable in
> 9.04 . .
> > . (fanning flame)
> I second that... Just moved over a few days ago. Have to run Gnome
> desktop because KDE desktop is so cranky. 
> Kmail & Akregator keep crashing. Konqueror as a file manager has
> degraded in subtle ways. Dolphin does not measure up yet. 
> Other odd things; like drag/drop not working well. It all feels very
> fragile.

Ah, but I was supposed to be a "complainer" and a "whiner" for merely
choosing to remain behind with KDE3. I did my tour of Beta Tester Hell
as a Fedora User for way too long. That's why I finally jumped ship, I
just wanted to get MY work done  ...using Linux. 

I do lean on the founding principles promised by Mark Shuttleworth:
"Be considerate. Your work will be used by other people, and you in turn
will depend on the work of others. Any decision you take will affect
users and colleagues, and we expect you to take those consequences into
account when making decisions. For example, when we are in a feature
freeze, please don't upload dramatically new versions of critical system
software, as other people will be testing the frozen system and not be
expecting big changes."  Amen. 

I think that has been the bane of users when KDE4 got dropped on us. It
was plainly broken, in many aspects, and it's release was very premature
at the first. That affected those of us doing other things equally
important in our own little spheres of influence. So it was, from my
perspective, not very "considerate". 

We are allowed to have an opinion and to voice it. That's all there
was/is to it. The "Great KDE3/KDE4 Debate" has not been directed at
anyone specifically, that I'm aware of. Yet, some do take complaints

In closing, just maybe what one of us does with our desktop of choice
will lead to "World Peace and Brotherly Love, if our desktop doesn't
crash, burn and trash the "Noble Work" in progress to /dev/null and
smithereens. From what I've read, I don't think that is what Mark had in
mind for us. If anyone disagrees, we can always ask him for his opinion.
To me, this whole Ubuntu endeavor is a gift from Mark, and we all (users
and devs) are primarily in his gift debt. Seeking the "Right Thing' has
to be the primary goal. Maybe we can debate what that means. Let's just
make sure that "World Peace and Brotherly Love" is somewhere inside
that. Ric


My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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