fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

It would appear that on Jan 31, Constantinos Maltezos did say:

> On Saturday 31 January 2009 1:21:28 am Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Then I tried the "startx fvwm" But it didn't quite work.
> > The xserver doesn't get far enough to switch the focus from the virtual
> > console before it terminates... (I forgot the error message)
> 
> If you ever get the message again, I'd be curious to know what it is.

Sure... But err It seems I was partially incorrect about the xserver
not changing the focus... The screen flashes a few bursts of color.
there is a rotating object (mouse pointer?) for a second or two then I
get:

=> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
=> (EE) R128(0): No DFP detected
=> xterm:  bad command line option "xterm"
=> 
=> usage:  xterm [-/+132] [-C] [-Sccn] [-T string] [-/+ah] [-/+ai] [-/+aw]
=>     [-b number] [-/+bc] [-bcf milliseconds] [-bcn milliseconds] [-bd color]
=>     [-/+bdc] [-bg color] [-bw number] [-/+cb] [-cc classrange] [-/+cjk_width]
=>     [-class string] [-/+cm] [-/+cn] [-cr color] [-/+cu] [-/+dc]
=>     [-display displayname] [-e command args ...] [-fa pattern] [-fb fontname]
=>     [-/+fbb] [-/+fbx] [-fd pattern] [-fg color] [-fi fontname] [-fn fontname]
=>     [-fs size] [-fw fontname] [-fwb fontname] [-fx fontname] [%geom] [#geom]
=>     [-geometry geom] [-help] [-/+hm] [-/+hold] [-iconic] [-/+ie] [-/+im]
=>     [-into windowId] [-/+j] [-/+k8] [-kt keyboardtype] [-/+l] [-/+lc]
=>     [-lcc path] [-leftbar] [-lf filename] [-/+ls] [-/+mb] [-mc milliseconds]
=>     [-/+mesg] [-/+mk_width] [-ms color] [-n string] [-name string] [-nb number]
=>     [-/+nul] [-/+pc] [-/+pob] [-rightbar] [-/+rv] [-/+rvc] [-/+rw] [-/+s]
=>     [-/+samename] [-/+sb] [-selbg color] [-selfg color] [-/+sf] [-/+si] [-/+sk]
=>     [-sl number] [-/+sm] [-/+sp] [-/+t] [-ti termid] [-title string]
=>     [-tm string] [-tn name] [-/+u8] [-/+ulc] [-/+ulit] [-/+ut] [-/+vb]
=>     [-version] [-/+wc] [-/+wf] [-xrm resourcestring] [-ziconbeep percent]
=> 
=> Type xterm -help for a full description.
=> 
=> 
=> waiting for X server to shut down

And that is as far back in the screen output as I can get with <shift>+<page up>.

Note: That's what I get when I type:

startx fvwm

But if I instead type:

startx /usr/bin/fvwm

fvwm does start.
 
> Are you saying that fvwm works when you put it in .xinitrc?  If so, how 
> strange that it wouldn't work the other way, as well.

Yup! 

> By the way, I don't think startkde can be used the way you're saying.  If it's 
> the same as it used to be, it's meant to be run while another window manager 
> that works with KDE (like WindowMaker and blackbox, not fvwm unless they've 
> added support) is running.  Then it loads desktop icons and that sort of 
> thing, but leaves window management and things like desktop background to the 
> window manager.  I don't recall what it does for desktop right clicking.

Thanks for the info... Don't think I want to go there.

> You could, though, make a shell script for KDE that looks like this:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> mv .xinitrc .xinitrc.backup
> startx
> mv .xinitrc.backup .xinitrc

Yes that's basically what I did. Only I use cp and rm instead of mv...

> Maybe name it kde.sh or kdestart (not just kde because there's already an 
> executable by that name) and do chmod +x to it.  You'll have to specify the 
> path with ./ when you run it unless, like me, you add a bin directory to your 
> home directory and add it to your path in .bashrc and stick the file in there.  
> But that's usually not the greatest of ideas.  I like it though, because I 
> have a bunch of shell scripts that I use that I don't want to make available 
> to the whole system.

Actually I called mine starmywm And I use "case $1 in" to select the
particular .xinitrc file. That way I can use the same script as I try
a fer more WMs...

I've been using ~/bin scripts for years...

Thanks again!

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