The NEW 3D PanUbuntu Was: Is it me or does Hardy run like a pig?

Knapp magick.crow at
Tue Oct 28 12:45:30 GMT 2008

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Emanoil Kotsev <deloptes at> wrote:
> Knapp wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Emanoil Kotsev <deloptes at>
>> wrote:
>>> Knapp wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Derek Broughton <news at>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Knapp wrote:
>>>>>> I think that it would be great fun to include panda3d in *Ubuntu as
>>>>>> part of the standard install and then use it for making a new desktop
>>>>>> to replace KDE, Gnome etc. You could do one like Neuromancer and there
>>>>>> would not even be that much code. Talk about eye candy. BTW the
>>>>>> license has been changed to be fully open source now. That being the
>>>>>> reason it is not even in the repos now.
>>>>> Either you're the most brilliant programmer ever, or like me you're
>>>>> lousy at
>>>>> estimating project costs :-)  But if it's the first, count me in on the
>>>>> project!
>>>>> --
>>>>> derek
>>>> What do we call it PanUbuntu because the devil is in the details? LOL
>>>> What costs? We all work for free around here. :-)
>>>> So what do we need? A bunch of links to software seen as floating
>>>> balls of light in a large room? When clicked on they blow up into a
>>>> full normal 2d screen. Perhaps like a first person shooter for
>>>> movement with your shot starting up the balls of light? Moving the
>>>> mouse to the bottom of a 2d program brings up kicker like bar for fast
>>>> switching.
>>>> No start up menu but some sort of rotating 3d lists?? Favorites and
>>>> desktop choices float. Do we have gravity? How much animation? What
>>>> would it look like to you?
>>>> I have in the past started something, X??, and you can start and run
>>>> software there but no windows manager is running, so we just need
>>>> something on top of that, whatever it was. Yes, I know almost nothing
>>>> about that layer of Linux. I am a game programmer turned computer
>>>> hobby game writer. Never bothered to learn the gritty details of KDE
>>>> or X.
>>>> You really want to try this? I have the animation of the man almost
>>>> done. He can walk right now. Better yet, lets use ManCandy, because he
>>>> is ugly but REALLY well done and open source. Making a walk for him is
>>>> something I am going to do anyway.
>>>> The simple room would take 10 minutes to make. 3d icons would be a bit
>>>> of work but we could prototype it with like FF, KVirc, OO, Kate,
>>>> Konqueror. Stick with Qt? Make this a sort of 3d KDE? Perhaps we can
>>>> make it standard in Kununtu for the April Fools Day release?
>>>> I have a movement interface designed for doing complex puppet moving
>>>> using the 10 key and the mouse. It is a bit like Mortal Kombat in
>>>> feel. (OK, this might not be the best choice as it was designed with
>>>> body language portrayal usage for interacting with others online, not
>>>> for ease of use to the average Newbie.)
>>>> Only thing I am not sure of is the launching and ending of a program
>>>> from within Panda3d.
>>>> BTW, I don't claim to be the best programmer anymore, perhaps 20 years
>>>> ago but not know. I went for 10 years without doing any programming
>>>> and now I am REALLY rusty and just getting good with python.
>>>> The real first step would be to get Panda3d into the repositories.
>>>> So do you REALLY want to try it?
>>> Something I found by incident, look at it, it sounds interesting:
>> Is that a joke? Did you see my sig? Or did you forget to type
>> something? I hope this does not come off rude. I am really confused is
>> all.
> I saw your signature after I've posted to the thread. I just remembered the
> panda3d discussion, while I was looking for something else, I followed a
> link to this site.
> On my turn I don't understand what you wanted to say about the joke or so...
> I posted the link because think it is related to the topic, that's all.
> After this I read more about it and saw your name somewhere, so wasn't
> quite sure it's you, but thought so.
> regards

Ah OK, no joke. I just did not understand. Yes, that is my site. I am
making a game science fiction game using panda3d. That sight is for my
scribbles and designs. It was made with the idea of others helping but
mostly it is my work with and idea here and there given by others. Is
is a fun project and I wish I could get more people to help. It is a
large project with a lot of branches that could all be done at the
same time. I have been working this week on the part that makes orbits
for multiple star systems. I am glad to be almost done with the galaxy
making program because next comes the space ship flight program and
that is something others can play. I am hoping as I put out an alpha
to recruit more programmers.

The alpha will be simple with just 2 ships, each ship having a crew of
3 people. I will start with them just exploring the galaxy but then
move into them fighting. Fighting is to the goal of my game but it is
a good way to test out the ships. After that I will work more on
economics, space-stations and planet landings.

I would love to get this game into the Ubuntu repositories! First goal
is to get panda3d in there. I am hoping that that will happen soon. If
not I might have to push the issue.

Douglas E Knapp

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