Beta 8.10 released

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Art Alexion wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2008 4:08:52 pm Knapp wrote:
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>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Art Alexion <art.alexion at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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>>> To bring this conversation full circle back to the original topic,
>>>
>>> KDE3 is to XP as KDE4 is to Vista.
>>>
>>> I hope that doesn't remain true, but if it does, I shall skip KDE4 just
>>> as businesses are skipping Vista.
>>>
>>> Put another way KDE3 is superior to Gnome, but Gnome is superior to KDE4.
>>> Well, at least today, Fluxbox is superior to KDE4.
>>>
>>> I can't wait for KDE5!
>>>       
>> I don't even want to get into this war but, is it far to say that
>> about 8.10 kde4 when it has not yet been released in a stable form?
>> Or, are you basing this on KDE4 from 8.04? I maybe be being naive but
>> I am still hoping that 8.10 kde 4 gets it together and gives us
>> something to be proud about. My hopes are not high and I think it was
>> likely a real bone head move by the Devs but MAYBE.
>>     
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> I am basing this on 8.04 KDE4 running as a whole, but a lot of stuff not 
> working and apps crashing when I try them.  I am also basing it on a fresh 
> install of Intrepid that is unusable on a Dell Optiplex 740 with an AMD 64 
> 6000 and two GB RAM, and ATI graphics.  What should be the center of the 
> screen is centered on the upper left corner of the monitor, the mouse is 
> active, but invisible.  The only way I can use it is that screen 
> elements "light up" when the mouse hovers over them.  It is pointless to test 
> apps in this state.
>
> Gutsy was quite stable and usable by the end of July 2007, and based on that 
> positive experience I upgraded it to Hardy in late Feb 2008 without problems.
>
> Seems to me there are a lot of big problems to fix in 21 days.
>
> I confess that because of crashes and non-working features, I haven't fully 
> tested KDE4, but I do check it out on 8.04 every couple of weeks, and what I 
> mostly see as improvements over KDE3 is eye candy and not productivity or 
> performance enhancements.
>
> I really like KDE and Kubuntu, and really hope that I am proved wrong.  I 
> don't remember the transition from KDE2 to KDE3 being this rough, but I was 
> using Red Hat at that time, and they were notorious for poorly supporting 
> KDE.
>   
OK, this is probably a really stupid question but could some of your 
problems be hardware, or conflict, related?

My reason for asking

As I've said before, I'm not a power user. But. I did a clean install of 
8.10-64b the first of the week. My computer has been running 
continuously ever since without any problems. Everything on the 
computer, at least that I know of, has been working as advertised [ 
intel dual core, 1.5gig ram, intel video ]. All the apps I have tried so 
far have worked well and behaved themselves. Other than some of the 
"new" stuff that I'm not to fond of it seems to be quite a good OS. [ If 
I REALLY wanted eye candy I would go to Vista - It's better for eye 
candy. Ain't worth a damn for anything else but it IS pretty. ]