Beta 8.10 released

[Art Alexion]

On Thursday 09 October 2008 4:08:52 pm Knapp wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Art Alexion <art.alexion at gmail.com> wrote:

> > To bring this conversation full circle back to the original topic,
> >
> > KDE3 is to XP as KDE4 is to Vista.
> >
> > I hope that doesn't remain true, but if it does, I shall skip KDE4 just
> > as businesses are skipping Vista.
> >
> > Put another way KDE3 is superior to Gnome, but Gnome is superior to KDE4.
> > Well, at least today, Fluxbox is superior to KDE4.
> >
> > I can't wait for KDE5!
>
> I don't even want to get into this war but, is it far to say that
> about 8.10 kde4 when it has not yet been released in a stable form?
> Or, are you basing this on KDE4 from 8.04? I maybe be being naive but
> I am still hoping that 8.10 kde 4 gets it together and gives us
> something to be proud about. My hopes are not high and I think it was
> likely a real bone head move by the Devs but MAYBE.

I am basing this on 8.04 KDE4 running as a whole, but a lot of stuff not 
working and apps crashing when I try them.  I am also basing it on a fresh 
install of Intrepid that is unusable on a Dell Optiplex 740 with an AMD 64 
6000 and two GB RAM, and ATI graphics.  What should be the center of the 
screen is centered on the upper left corner of the monitor, the mouse is 
active, but invisible.  The only way I can use it is that screen 
elements "light up" when the mouse hovers over them.  It is pointless to test 
apps in this state.

Gutsy was quite stable and usable by the end of July 2007, and based on that 
positive experience I upgraded it to Hardy in late Feb 2008 without problems.

Seems to me there are a lot of big problems to fix in 21 days.

I confess that because of crashes and non-working features, I haven't fully 
tested KDE4, but I do check it out on 8.04 every couple of weeks, and what I 
mostly see as improvements over KDE3 is eye candy and not productivity or 
performance enhancements.

I really like KDE and Kubuntu, and really hope that I am proved wrong.  I 
don't remember the transition from KDE2 to KDE3 being this rough, but I was 
using Red Hat at that time, and they were notorious for poorly supporting 
KDE.
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