Why do people dislike Dolphin?

Dotan Cohen dotancohen at gmail.com
Wed Nov 5 19:14:34 UTC 2008


2008/11/5 Art Alexion <art.alexion at gmail.com>:
> On Wednesday 05 November 2008 1:34:32 pm Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> Could you post some example websites?
>
> http://www.pnc.com/
>
> Now that is a really important web site to me, because I do my banking with
> it, but the problems occur /after/ I log in (when Konqueror allows me to log
> in).
>

I would appreciate if you would be very specific, offlist if you want.
I cannot log in as I do not have an account there.

> Not only does it work in FF, but it also works on Safari on my iTouch.
>
> Another problem I seem to have a lot with Konqueror is when I do a form post.
> The post is often successful, but Konqueror doesn't automatically move to the
> results page.  When I force it, it complains that there is unsent form data.
>

I haven't seen this. Do you have a known-bad page that I can test on?

> The thing that most upset me about the Konqueror changes was that they were
> taking a combination top class file manager and mediocre web browser and
> making it merely a mediocre web browser.
>

I know, dumb move. The thinking is that they need a dedicated web
browser (NIH syndrome, no?) so instead of developing a new one, they
kept Konqueror as the web browser so that yet _another_ browser would
not be added to the browser market. WTF?

> And this angers me as well. FOSS adapts all of the time.  Samba works with
> windows shares; it doesn't complain that they are poorly implemented.  kpdf
> opens and displays the Adobe Acrobat format, and adapts to changes in that
> format; it doesn't complain about the format.  OpenOffice supports ODF, but
> it also supports the MS XML formats because its users need it to; it doesn't
> refuse to support them because they don't conform to ODF standards.
>

I was unaware of this attitude in Konq devs. In fact, I remember
reading about how Gmail was making it hard on konqi with the
obfusicated javascript, and how the devs decoded it. Could you post
links showing where konqueror devs refused to make the browser work
with non-standard code? Because so far as I understand most of the web
is nonstandard code.

By the way, don't get me started on OOo's implementation of ODF.

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