Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin)

Steve Lamb grey at dmiyu.org
Mon Oct 8 20:54:28 UTC 2007


Derek Broughton wrote:
> Steve Lamb wrote:
>>     Bluetooth support would not shut down even though I turned it
>>     off in the runlevels tool.  I have to rip it out.

> Not having ever had a bluetooth device, I've always wondered why I have to
> have the bluetooth stuff running, but it's _always_ been too difficult to
> turn it off to be worthwhile.

    Eh, ripping it out worked.  It's hard for something to start up when
it's not present on the filesystem to call.  Though my preference would
be for there to be a way to reliably turn it off.  While I am capable of
tracking this stuff down and executing it with extreme prejudice many
other people might not be as capable.

>>     For some reason Thunderbird sits at 20% CPU while doing nothing.  But
>> not all the time so I'm not sure what's going on there.

>>     KMail is harfing on itself but that might not be a 7.10 issue as I
>>     poked at it at 7.04 and it was doing the same thing.

> I'd have to wonder why you'd need both KMail _and_ Thunderbird :-)

    I currently use Thunderbird.  I am attempting to test KMail.  I quite
often reevaluate certain classes of software to ensure that what I am
using is the best fit for my needs.

> While that sounds more like a bad implementation of ACPI on your laptop than
> a Kubuntu error, it should be easy enough to turn off.  Unfortunately I
> can't tell you where (I don't have the ability on my old laptop) :-)

    It's a power manager system tray app that gets loaded with KDE.  If I
log in from the console I have no problems at all.  Since I can't find a
sensible place to stop it from autoloading I'm gonna just rip it out. 
It's kind of sad that this practice is starting on any Linux.  Have we
not learned from Windows how annoying it is to have things start without
providing a convenient way to have them not automatically load?  :(

>>     I have a sneaking suspicion that there are portions of hal which are
>> causing issues as well.  I tried looking for any place to configure what
>> parts of hal start up.  So far, no pointers at all.  I know I don't want
>> to rip it out so this is distressing.

> You can't.  Without hal you'll be dead in the water.

    Exactly.  Not being able to find a quick way to configure it to not do
something is the distressing part.  For example I don't want it wasting
800kb watching my CD-ROM drive.  I never use it on the laptop outside of
a means to reinstall the OS.  I'll un/mount it manually in the rare case
it is used in another manner.

-- 
Steve Lamb





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