Setup woes

Bill Vance kbun at
Thu Nov 29 09:15:48 UTC 2007

On Wed Nov 28 08:47:00 2007 Derek Broughton wrote:

>Mike Leone wrote:
>> Derek Broughton (news at had this to say on 11/27/07 at
>> 10:35:
>>> Mike Leone wrote:
>>> > Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> >> Bill Vance wrote:
>>> >>> Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>   sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440
>>> >> 
>>> >> As you can't use the sudo command any more, I think you should boot to
>>> >> recovery mode now.
>>> > 
>>> > That's one of the reasons why I always put a password on "root", and
>>> > use "su". YMMV.
>>> Pretty weak.  He only got this way by doing things he shouldn't - so
>>> you'd like to make it easier to do things you shouldn't...
>> "Shouldn't"? Using "su" is pretty standard Linux practice.
>That's not what caused his problem. Simply using sudo or su doesn't mess up
>the permissions on /etc/sudoers.  Somebody had to have done that ...
>> And everyone 
>> should have the freedom to run their system the way they like, don't you
>> think?
>Of course they should - I just don't think it's a good idea to advise
>somebody to bypass a good security feature when they aren't doing very well
>with security in the first place.  Rebooting in single-user mode after
>screwing up sudoers is a _very_ small price to pay.
>> You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want
>> to.
>You certainly don't, but you don't have to offer a suicidal person a rope
>with a pre-made noose, either.

FYI, It was nothing I deliberately did.  It was something the system did,
while I was doing something else, entirely.  Adept Manager seems quite buggy
on this end, and that's straight out of the distro box, including some effect
or other on just about everything.  Text install was the only one that worked,
and I'm still wondering what to do about some of the hard drive partitions it
didn't get right, some device that Adept Manager can't open, and a number of
other weirdies.


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