Dell to offer Ubuntu 7.04 on selected desk/laptops

Tue May 8 15:26:07 UTC 2007

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 17:22:06 newburghmark at aol.com wrote:
> I goofed. I meant to say "Mark", as in Shuttleworth, the lead
> co-founder of Ubuntu.  From what I've read, the whole premise of the
> Ubuntu project was free software, not getting it to the point where
> they could sell it.  My source of information was a local guy who
> builds systems from scratch and can't compete price wise with the big
> boys because he isn't big enough to get people like AOL to pay him to
> put 9.0 in his desktops.
>
> Robert Mark Wallace
> Tita P Wallace
> Regina E P Wallace
> R M Ceferino P Wallace
> 60 Delaware Road
> Newburgh, NY 12550-3802
> Telephone: (845) 566-0586
>
> Why run an old edition of Windows when you can run the latest edition
> of Linux for free?  For a free download, go to WWW.Kubuntu.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: manchicken at notsosoft.net
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Dell to offer Ubuntu 7.04 on selected desk/laptops
>
>   On Tuesday 08 May 2007 15:31:10 newburghmark at aol.com wrote:
> > They would not have patents on 99% of it. I don't think that it was
> > Bruce's intention to turn it into a profit making thing. I think that
> > his issue was that the third world was being left on the wrong side of
> > the digital divide.
> >
> >   The initial contact between Dell and Ubuntu was made by Dell. It
>
> turns
>
> > out that, although "Dell recommends Windows Vista," the founder of
>
> Dell
>
> > runs Ubuntu on HIS PC!!
> >
> >   I think that the whole project is going to get as far as costs. The
> > hardware manufactures actually MAKE money on the contents of the hard
> > drive, and they are selling the hardware itself below costs. Yes,
> > Microsoft charges Dell maybe $100 to put vista on the hard drive, but
> > then Dell turns around and sells putting things like teaser versions
>
> of
>
> > Quicken and AOL 9.0 to those providers. On my new PC's the recovery
> > CD's are set up in such a way as I can't restore Windows without
> > restoring products like Symantec Anti Virus.
> >
> >   If you put Ubuntu on a hard drive, that revenue is gone and you have
> > to try and make money on the hardware. It's cheaper to buy a system
> > with Windows than no operating system for this reason.
> >
> >   I don't think that the numbers are there for this to be much more
>
> than
>
> > an oddity. Even putting an Ubuntu CD loose in the box would imperil
> > these marketing arrangements. You couldn't even put a flyer in the box
> > that mentioned Linux without freaking out the makers of the game ware
> > that give you an hour's free trial on something already on the hard
> > drive.
> >
> >   The last time that I reinstalled XP, I spent over an hour just
> > uninstalling crap that got reinstalled with XP.
> >
> >  Robert Mark Wallace
> >  Tita P Wallace
> >  Regina E P Wallace
> >  R M Ceferino P Wallace
> >  60 Delaware Road
> >  Newburgh, NY 12550-3802
> >  Telephone: (845) 566-0586
> >
> >   Why run an old edition of Windows when you can run the latest
>
> edition
>
> > of Linux for free? For a free download, go to WWW.Kubuntu.com
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: shuston at ohiohills.com
> >  To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> >  Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 8:49 AM
> >  Subject: RE: Dell to offer Ubuntu 7.04 on selected desk/laptops
> >
> >  I have a question with this. If dell is going to offer Kubuntu, etc
>
> on
>
> >   laptops, does this mean there is a possibility that Kubuntu could
> > become
> >   commercialized and not a free distro? If it is successful, could
>
> this
>
> > be a
> >  possibility?
> >
> >  Huston
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> >   [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Derek
> > Broughton
> >  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:29 AM
> >  To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> >  Subject: Re: Dell to offer Ubuntu 7.04 on selected desk/laptops
> >
> >  Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> >  > Mark Wallace wrote:
> >  >> It would be impractical to surf the net without flashplayer
>
> because
>
> >  >> almost every page would have puzzle pieces on it.
> >  >
> >  > That's an exaggeration. The only flash content I /want/ to see is
> >  > videos (why would you use a complex, proprietary, interactive
> >  >
> >   > environment just to show a video), and I can often find
>
> workarounds
>
> > for
> >
> >  > them.
> >
> >  I agree. I never install flashplayer, and in the odd case that I
>
> really
>
> >  need it I go to the Windows desktop. It can't be important.
> >  --
> >  derek
> >
> >
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> I don't think it's a good idea to speculate like this.  There's no way
> any of
> us could possibly have that information.  I would also like to know who
> Bruce
> is.  Please take speculation like this offline.
>
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Fair enough, but I still really don't see the point or propriety of such 
speculation here.

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