firefox and dapper after april on LTS

Felipe Figueiredo philsf at
Thu Feb 15 03:38:18 UTC 2007

On Thursday 15 February 2007 00:44:30 Bry Paula Melvin wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 February 2007 18:04, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> > Bry Paula Melvin <brymelvin at> writes:
> > > Looking toward the future I see Firefox1.5 will no longer be supported
> > > upstream as of April.
> > >
> > > For LTS users that will apparently leave Ubuntu without and Kubuntu
> > > with only konqueror supported for security updates (for a "free"
> > > browser: there is the Opera option)
> >
> > I think you are making a dangerous and incorrect assumption here:
> Not making any assumptions. logic and questioning:

Excuse me the intrusion, but you should give

> Once support is stopped (april) upstream security testers will begin to
> ignore  it and thus even if ubuntu wanted to their maintenance might
> be ineffective   

This is an assumption, not a fact. And I agree with Daniel it is exagerated.

> > The final option is that an update to the LTS release that includes a
> > newer (and supported) version of Firefox will be issued.
> >
> ISTR previous comments on this subject  at which it was pointed out that you 
> could use the targz from Mozilla ...true for pc Already have installed FF2 
> the pcs. 
> This might be something no one else has looked at yet.
> They want business and small business to use LTS...good...LTS is a good 
> for those that are not hobbiests, I'm looking at what I need to change in my 
> small business over the next 60 days. Whether I need to ween people off 
> firefox...or compile it and test it myself as there IS no ppc targz for 2.x.
> Or whether on ppc LTS I just take a chance on safety through obscurity,

LTS is LTS. PPC support for it will not be suspended overnight. PPC is only no 
longer supported for _future_ releases. 606 is already released, so it is 
supported. I don't see why you are so concerned with this.

If you trust the sec team on their work, you bet they'll be having discussions 
on what should be the best approach when one needs to be taken.

> > In other words: I think you are worried that the sky will fall on your
> > head -- when, as with other things, that is pretty unlikely to actually
> > happen with the Ubuntu/Canonical team behind the LTS release.
> No No sky falling in...but just looking ahead. As a small business we have 
> intention of using anything but LTS versions,(so no edgy or fiesty) and as 
> this is the first LTS there is no track record to look at. And planning 
> is usually adviseable. So is questioning things. I used to have a sign on my 
> desk saying "Piss poor planning on your part does not constitute an 
> on our part."  Thus the questioning 6 weeks in advance. :-)

I'll change my point a little bit now. 

I think I see your point, but see through this way: there is a reason PPC will 
no longer be supported for next releases: very few people use it. Even apple 
is turning to x86 (if not completely already).

Let's just not have another VHS x betamax discussion.

> I thought there is a possibility that someone on this list may be privy to 
> plans regarding this item as the issue becomes a factor in 6 weeks,
> If need be I'll do it from source myself,as I have for another item (hplip) 
> but I'd prefer spending my time producing the paintings my business sells 
> prints of :-)

It really can't be that hard. I'm guessing on the second time you compile 
you'l just find out exactly how to make .deb in an almost non-interactive 
way, so it will be pretty much straightforward to distribute packages to your 
machines (if more than one) and upgrade. Heck, if this happen you might even 
have your own repository ;)

Thinking this way, you will probably be able to find such a non-official 
repository with fairly up-to-date .

> bryann
> > Regards,
> >         Daniel
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