kubuntu 7.10 is really suks to install ! (al)

[LLLActive at GMX.Net]

Christophe Guilbert wrote:
> Just because we are not part of the Linux developers team does not means 
> that we can't share our experience and frustration. Linux is community 
> based for people to people. I am not the one who advertised and claimed  
> that nowadays , Linux in general and Kubuntu in particular are as easy 
> (if not easier) to install than window$.  Let's face it , X server  may 
> crash , openoffice crash if heavily used , material configuration may 
> not be easy to setup for scanner , wireless , webcam, ... just the fact 
> of selecting  a new screen resolution could be a pain in the past ....
> Beginners may  lost  their envy to try free software when the install 
> does not run flawlessly  , the experiences Linux users like me may loose 
> their cool when you spend hours googling any info to write scripts to 
> make your materials working and start over again when you upgrade Linux. 
> Sure its my choice to install Linux and I love it because it is the most 
> reliable OS (once every thing works). However it is not perfect and one 
> should not be offended if some users complained about it and want to 
> share their experiences with others. 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> In a world without walls and fences,
> who needs Windows and Gates?
>        - Sun Microsystems 
>   

I am an OpenSUSE (KDE) user. I tried the new Kubuntu 7.10, because it is
said to be the best alternative for a Windows migration. I used the
download DVD offered on the Kubuntu website.

It is really easy to install from the live environment, just click the
Install button on the Desktop. After the initial questions and a
partition resize of the existing OpenSUSE system, it installed without
any problem.

At reboot, a nasty CLI menu appeared, with only Kubuntu available.

OK, I rebooted with an OpenSUSE 10.3 install DVD and booted the
installed OpenSUSE 10.3 from there. I checked the menu.lst file and
added the Kubuntu boot partition into the OpenSUSE menu.lst file. I
rebuilt the MBR and now both systems are bootable from the original
OpenSUSE boot loader.

Why does Kubuntu destroy the boot process of OpenSUSE?

What does Kubuntu do to a Windows PC, that should become a dual boot PC?
I discouraged some Windows converts to not install Kubuntu yet, till
this problem is gone. I do not want to repair all Windows PC's boot
processes, just because the boot process does not provide the Windows
boot alternative. I encourage all new PC buyers to create a dual boot
system to have the legally purchased Windows bundle (an anti free market
principle) for games and the limited applications Windows has on a bare
system. I emphatically discourage pirate software; the reason I changed
to Linux - to be free at last from the quagmire of illegality that 90%
of Windows users who get programmes like MS Office from friends for the
home PC. They should install a Linux distro to get all the other apps
free and legally parallel to Windows for serious work, and keep Windows
for playing around (hopefully with purchased games).

OpenSUSE adds Windows in its boot menu.

Otherwise the differences between the Kubuntu and OpenSUSE 10.3 is not
much. OpenSUSE 10.3 has everything installed, maybe an overkill, but it
is almost everything there. Installation of all drivers so far on about
15 different systems worked well so far.

The idea of tailoring Linux for Users (Ubuntu/Kubuntu), Edubuntu,
Xubuntu and Gobuntu is quite interesting. I am looking for systems to
recommend for novices to computers and Linux newbies. I'd love to
recommend OpenSUSE, but it perhaps has too many applications for some
new users; but it is very good!

Kubuntu is nice for a start though.

:-)