kubuntu 7.10 is really suks to install ! (al)

[O. Sinclair]

LLLActive at GMX.Net wrote:
> Christophe Guilbert wrote:
>> Just because we are not part of the Linux developers team does not means 
>> that we can't share our experience and frustration. Linux is community 
>> based for people to people. I am not the one who advertised and claimed  
>> that nowadays , Linux in general and Kubuntu in particular are as easy 
>> (if not easier) to install than window$.  Let's face it , X server  may 
>> crash , openoffice crash if heavily used , material configuration may 
>> not be easy to setup for scanner , wireless , webcam, ... just the fact 
>> of selecting  a new screen resolution could be a pain in the past ....
>> Beginners may  lost  their envy to try free software when the install 
>> does not run flawlessly  , the experiences Linux users like me may loose 
>> their cool when you spend hours googling any info to write scripts to 
>> make your materials working and start over again when you upgrade Linux. 
>> Sure its my choice to install Linux and I love it because it is the most 
>> reliable OS (once every thing works). However it is not perfect and one 
>> should not be offended if some users complained about it and want to 
>> share their experiences with others. 
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> In a world without walls and fences,
>> who needs Windows and Gates?
>>        - Sun Microsystems 
>>   
> 
> I am an OpenSUSE (KDE) user. I tried the new Kubuntu 7.10, because it is
> said to be the best alternative for a Windows migration. I used the
> download DVD offered on the Kubuntu website.
> 
> It is really easy to install from the live environment, just click the
> Install button on the Desktop. After the initial questions and a
> partition resize of the existing OpenSUSE system, it installed without
> any problem.
> 
> At reboot, a nasty CLI menu appeared, with only Kubuntu available.
> 
> OK, I rebooted with an OpenSUSE 10.3 install DVD and booted the
> installed OpenSUSE 10.3 from there. I checked the menu.lst file and
> added the Kubuntu boot partition into the OpenSUSE menu.lst file. I
> rebuilt the MBR and now both systems are bootable from the original
> OpenSUSE boot loader.
> 
> Why does Kubuntu destroy the boot process of OpenSUSE?
> 
> What does Kubuntu do to a Windows PC, that should become a dual boot PC?
> I discouraged some Windows converts to not install Kubuntu yet, till
> this problem is gone. I do not want to repair all Windows PC's boot
> processes, just because the boot process does not provide the Windows
> boot alternative. I encourage all new PC buyers to create a dual boot
> system to have the legally purchased Windows bundle (an anti free market
> principle) for games and the limited applications Windows has on a bare
> system. I emphatically discourage pirate software; the reason I changed
> to Linux - to be free at last from the quagmire of illegality that 90%
> of Windows users who get programmes like MS Office from friends for the
> home PC. They should install a Linux distro to get all the other apps
> free and legally parallel to Windows for serious work, and keep Windows
> for playing around (hopefully with purchased games).
> 
> OpenSUSE adds Windows in its boot menu.
> 
> Otherwise the differences between the Kubuntu and OpenSUSE 10.3 is not
> much. OpenSUSE 10.3 has everything installed, maybe an overkill, but it
> is almost everything there. Installation of all drivers so far on about
> 15 different systems worked well so far.
> 
> The idea of tailoring Linux for Users (Ubuntu/Kubuntu), Edubuntu,
> Xubuntu and Gobuntu is quite interesting. I am looking for systems to
> recommend for novices to computers and Linux newbies. I'd love to
> recommend OpenSUSE, but it perhaps has too many applications for some
> new users; but it is very good!
Clearly something went wrong during install. I have put Linux on several 
Windows boxes, and I did put the 7.10 Kubuntu on a laptop a couple of 
weeks ago for a client. No problems with either windows or Kubuntu - he 
finds Kubuntu easier though...

Grub will normally find existing OS and create a dual-boot menu w/o any 
problems - at least in my experience. I have read that Vista can be 
tricky but I have not tried myself on a vista pc yet.

Sinclair