muon bug reports

[Mitch Golden]

If it's helpful I can at least go through the bug reports and see which 
ones I can replicate. I would sign up to the proposed list (though I 
don't know how much I would be able to do bug fixes.)

   - Mitch Golden

On 8/16/20 6:49 PM, Carlo Vanini wrote:
> Il giorno sab 8 ago 2020 alle ore 16:51 Nate Graham <nate at kde.org> ha scritto:
>>
>> On 8/8/20 8:48 AM, Harald Sitter wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 3:14 AM Mitch Golden <mgolden at mitchgolden.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there something broken about muon that would require it to be sunset?
>>>
>>> We don't know because nobody triages bugs, let alone works on them,
>>> hence my original question where bug mails should go ;)
>>
>> I suppose we should set up a new mailing list and encourage people who
>> care to subscribe to it.
>>
> 
> Muon is certainly not actively developed anymore. I would say the same
> of libqapt,
> software-properties(-qt) and apt-xapian-index (Muon depends on them). Being
> distro-specific may not be helping. Maybe having a list dedicated to them as you
> suggest would gather interested people and coordinate some effort.
> Releasing with Applications would also help a lot.
> 
> On the other hand, I would say the target user group for Muon could be served by
> aptitude. Muon is a sort of clone of aptitude with limited features (think e.g.
> dependency navigation, multiple tabs). For desktop users we have Discover.
> When Muon was orphaned [1] it was already proposed to move it to unmaintained.
> 
> Muon is still usable at present, safe for some quirks (e.g. search
> crashing in some
> circumstances).
> The more recent bug reports are related to software-properties, which
> is a Ubuntu thing.
> The Qt frontend still expects to be run as root (kdesu or pkexec).
> Afaik it will break on
> Wayland. There is a branch for porting to the existing dbus service,
> but then new features
> got added to master and the branch lagged behind.
> Maintaining Muon would require some activity on apt-xapian-index
> (completing port to
> python3) and software-properties. Moreover, if Julian hadn't updated
> libqapt to apt 1.9
> himself, I for one certainly wouldn't have been able to.
> 
> To sum it up, it would make me sad to see it go away, but I'm not
> against sunsetting.
> 
> Carlo
> 
> [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-November/010082.html
>