Add Muon-Discover to the favorites menu
rick.timmis at abazander.com
Wed Nov 11 19:46:21 UTC 2015
On 09/11/15 06:02, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Robert Charbonneau <rpc at bewitching.me> wrote:
>> On October 15, 2015 02:38:03 PM James Cain wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Mustafa Muhammad <mustafa1024m at gmail.com>
>>>> For new users, it is not that obvious how to install packages, I suggest
>>>> adding Muon Discover to the favorites menu for the default installation.
>>> +1 for this. Otherwise it's potentially off to the forums whereby a new
>>> user can get overwhelmed with instantly-forced command line
>> Yes, this thread is a little old, and after reading through the suggestions
>> I would concur that for a new user account it should appear in the favorites
>> tab; though, I don't think it should appear for an existing user (so not a
>> system-wide update for existing accounts.) I only very occasionally use Muon
>> Discover as most documentation (Stack Overflow, Ubuntu Forums, any elective
>> PPA) will direct a user to make use of a console and manually adding a PPA
>> and manual package installation steps. De-emphasizing that users should
>> learn how to use apt, dpkg and related command line utilities is not
>> something I would personally like to see happen. I view Muon as a stepping
>> stone, but it should never be a crutch. Open source and open architecture
>> implies continued education in my opinion. It may seem like a small thing
>> being suggested but macroscopically it has wider-reaching implications.
>> Thoughts anyone?
> My thoughts: we should always first consider the new user, who may be
> entirely new to computers, or is coming from another distro or even
> from Win/Mac. For this user, Muon Discover is great.
> Next, we have to consider our users who may not realize they are using
> Linux, much less Kubuntu. The folks in Munich or Brazil who turn on
> their computers, expect them to work. They have no idea where to do
> for support, other than what we show them in our software. For these
> people, Muon Discover should Just Work.
> Finally, we love our geeky users, who will learn to use the cli, hop
> on IRC, ask on Stackoverflow, or check out the forums. The few even
> find the mail lists! These folks will keep using Synaptic, or Muon
> package manager, or apt. They will also figure out how to remove Muon
> Discover from their favorites.
> Even I can do that! And I love learning to use the cli better, too.
> But most people use their computers as tools. There is no reason that
> free and open systems should mean one should *have to* learn how to
> use the commandline. We make our GUI stuff so that it Just Works.
+1 on the above from valorie
I have just put myself forward to maintain the Muon Package Manager.
This will provide the next stepping stone towards understanding Apt and
making that journey towards become a Kubuntu Ninja :-)
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