Add Muon-Discover to the favorites menu

Scarlett Clark scarlett.gately.clark at
Wed Nov 11 20:08:03 UTC 2015

+1 to having it on favorites. I do not expect every user to become a Linux
ninja, nor would I like to see some of the users I have come across in my
days as a remote support tech, ever have access to a command line. For
these users, making things as friendly as possible, which I thought was our
goal, is key. Those of us with our ninja belts have the power to adjust our
UI any way we see fit, and or can google stuff. However, with that said, I
think it is a waste discussing it here. Needs to go to Harald's link with
the VDG.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Rick Timmis <rick.timmis at>

> On 09/11/15 06:02, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Robert Charbonneau <rpc at>
>> wrote:
>>> On October 15, 2015 02:38:03 PM James Cain wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Mustafa Muhammad <
>>>> mustafa1024m at>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> For new users, it is not that obvious how to install packages, I
>>>>> suggest
>>>>> adding Muon Discover to the favorites menu for the default
>>>>> installation.
>>>>> Regards
>>>> +1 for this. Otherwise it's potentially off to the forums whereby a new
>>>> user can get overwhelmed with instantly-forced command line
>>>> indoctrination.
>>> Yes, this thread is a little old, and after reading through the
>>> suggestions
>>> I would concur that for a new user account it should appear in the
>>> favorites
>>> tab; though, I don't think it should appear for an existing user (so not
>>> a
>>> system-wide update for existing accounts.) I only very occasionally use
>>> Muon
>>> Discover as most documentation (Stack Overflow, Ubuntu Forums, any
>>> elective
>>> PPA) will direct a user to make use of a console and manually adding a
>>> PPA
>>> and manual package installation steps. De-emphasizing that users should
>>> learn how to use apt, dpkg and related command line utilities is not
>>> something I would personally like to see happen. I view Muon as a
>>> stepping
>>> stone, but it should never be a crutch. Open source and open architecture
>>> implies continued education in my opinion. It may seem like a small thing
>>> being suggested but macroscopically it has wider-reaching implications.
>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>> --
>>> :RPC
>> My thoughts: we should always first consider the new user, who may be
>> entirely new to computers, or is coming from another distro or even
>> from Win/Mac. For this user, Muon Discover is great.
>> Next, we have to consider our users who may not realize they are using
>> Linux, much less Kubuntu. The folks in Munich or Brazil who turn on
>> their computers, expect them to work. They have no idea where to do
>> for support, other than what we show them in our software. For these
>> people, Muon Discover should Just Work.
>> Finally, we love our geeky users, who will learn to use the cli, hop
>> on IRC, ask on Stackoverflow, or check out the forums. The few even
>> find the mail lists! These folks will keep using Synaptic, or Muon
>> package manager, or apt. They will also figure out how to remove Muon
>> Discover from their favorites.
>> Even I can do that! And I love learning to use the cli better, too.
>> But most people use their computers as tools. There is no reason that
>> free and open systems should mean one should *have to* learn how to
>> use the commandline. We make our GUI stuff so that it Just Works.
>> Valorie
> +1 on the above from valorie
> I have just put myself forward to maintain the Muon Package Manager. This
> will provide the next stepping stone towards understanding Apt and making
> that journey towards become a Kubuntu Ninja :-)
> Thanks
> Rick
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