Upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 Plasma 5 difficulties

[Scarlett Clark]

On Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:42:20 AM Clay Weber wrote:
> On Saturday, November 15, 2014 02:32:05 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> > Hello, I helped a user through the painful process of upgrading in
> > #kubuntu last night. He encountered the same issues I did:
> > 
> > 1. wireless stopped working
> > 
> > 2. blank or unresponsive screen
> > 
> > I held his hand while he repeated the suggested steps to upgrading in
> > the console one more time, plus had him remove lightdm. I asked him to
> > look in his bash history to check that he indeed *had* done all the
> > steps correctly the first time, but never got a reply to that
> > question. So perhaps he made a typo at some point, or did things out
> > of order.
> > 
> > That said, why is wireless still getting stopped in the /next ppa? And
> > why is lightdm still not being removed when SDDM is chosen?
> > 
> > We have people who held off a few weeks for things to settle down,
> > which is prudent. But IMO things have NOT improved, and we owe them
> > better. It makes it difficult for people to test Plasma 5 if they
> > can't successfully install it with the tools we give them.
> > 
> > Note: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu says:
> > 
> > Install from Kubuntu 14.10 with Plasma 4
> > 
> > If you are running Kubuntu 14.10 with Plasma 4 you can install Plasma
> > 5 packages with these commands. This will replace your Plasma 4
> > desktop and much of the software. No upgrade will be supported and you
> > may have to reinstall to revert back to Plasma 4.
> > 
> > sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next
> > sudo apt update
> > sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop  [it will ask if you want to
> > set use the new SDDM as login manager]
> > sudo apt full-upgrade
> > sudo reboot [save any work first]
> 
> Oddly, when running apt-update, it displays this :
> 
> Reading state information... Done
> 22 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
> 
> Doing the suggested command outputs this:
> gus at gus-HP-Compaq-6000-Pro-SFF-PC:~$ apt list --upgradable
> Listing... Done
> about-distro/utopic 1.50+git20140731.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
> 1.0.1-0ubuntu1] gstreamer-qapt/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 
amd64
> [upgradable from: 2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
> gstreamer0.10-qapt/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 all 
[upgradable from:
> 2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
> kde-config-gtk-style/utopic 3:2.9.90-0ubuntu0~ppa2 amd64 [upgradable 
from:
> 3:2.2.1-1fakesync1]
> kde-config-whoopsie/utopic 14.10ubuntu0+git20140731.1 amd64 
[upgradable
> from: 14.04ubuntu2]
> kinfocenter/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from:
> 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
> kmenuedit/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu2~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from:
> 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
> kscreen/utopic 2.0.0~git20140827-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable
> from: 1.0.2.1-0ubuntu1]
> ksysguard/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from:
> 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
> ksysguardd/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from:
> 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
> kubuntu-debug-installer/utopic 14.10ubuntu1+qt5+101~ubuntu14.10.1 
amd64
> [upgradable from: 13.10ubuntu1]
> kubuntu-driver-manager/utopic 14.10ubuntu1+qt5.1 amd64 [upgradable 
from:
> 14.04ubuntu10]
> libqapt2-runtime/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 amd64 
[upgradable from:
> 2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
> plasma-dataengines-addons/utopic 
4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64
> [upgradable from: 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2]
> plasma-desktop/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable
> from: 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
> plasma-nm/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from:
> 0.9.3.4-1]
> plasma-widget-kimpanel/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 
amd64
> [upgradable from: 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2]
> plasma-widgets-addons/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 
amd64
> [upgradable from: 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2]
> qapt-batch/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 amd64 [upgradable 
from:
> 2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
> qapt-deb-installer/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 amd64 
[upgradable
> from: 2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
> systemsettings/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable
> from: 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
> ttf-oxygen-font-family/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 
amd64
> [upgradable from: 0.4~git20140212-0ubuntu1]
> 
> It looks like some plasma-next ppa packages are marked as upgradeable 
before
> we actually try to install plasma5? These include plasma-nm and
> plasma-desktop
> 
> Note that if we do not do a full-upgrade *before* installing
> kubuntu-plasma5- desktop, these packages are not installed.:
> 
> 0 upgraded, 184 newly installed, 9 to remove and 22 not upgraded
> 
> Is this what is causing
> plasma-nm to "disappear"? Should the instructions have us do a full-
upgrade
> *before*
> installing plasma5? Or would plasma-nm stop working in either case?
> 
> > He correctly did these steps, but only after getting his wireless to
> > work with a cli application, and after `apt remove lightdm`
> > 
> > Valorie

Ummm, wut? Upgrading 14.04 directly to 14.10 plasma5 is not possible as 
14.04 does not have plasma5. So what needs to happen here is a complete 
upgrade 14.04 plasma4 -> 14.10 Plasma4 then when everything is stable 
and happy, aka apt is done and clean everything tested ... network etc. THEN 
you can go through the steps to upgrade to plasma5 as instructed on the 
wiki.... 
Scarlett