Upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 Plasma 5 difficulties

[Clay Weber]

On Saturday, November 15, 2014 02:32:05 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> Hello, I helped a user through the painful process of upgrading in
> #kubuntu last night. He encountered the same issues I did:
> 
> 1. wireless stopped working
> 
> 2. blank or unresponsive screen
> 
> I held his hand while he repeated the suggested steps to upgrading in
> the console one more time, plus had him remove lightdm. I asked him to
> look in his bash history to check that he indeed *had* done all the
> steps correctly the first time, but never got a reply to that
> question. So perhaps he made a typo at some point, or did things out
> of order.
> 
> That said, why is wireless still getting stopped in the /next ppa? And
> why is lightdm still not being removed when SDDM is chosen?
> 
> We have people who held off a few weeks for things to settle down,
> which is prudent. But IMO things have NOT improved, and we owe them
> better. It makes it difficult for people to test Plasma 5 if they
> can't successfully install it with the tools we give them.
> 
> Note: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu says:
> 
> Install from Kubuntu 14.10 with Plasma 4
> 
> If you are running Kubuntu 14.10 with Plasma 4 you can install Plasma
> 5 packages with these commands. This will replace your Plasma 4
> desktop and much of the software. No upgrade will be supported and you
> may have to reinstall to revert back to Plasma 4.
> 
> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next
> sudo apt update
> sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop  [it will ask if you want to
> set use the new SDDM as login manager]
> sudo apt full-upgrade
> sudo reboot [save any work first]
> 
Oddly, when running apt-update, it displays this :

Reading state information... Done
22 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.

Doing the suggested command outputs this:
gus at gus-HP-Compaq-6000-Pro-SFF-PC:~$ apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done
about-distro/utopic 1.50+git20140731.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1]
gstreamer-qapt/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
gstreamer0.10-qapt/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 all [upgradable from: 
2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
kde-config-gtk-style/utopic 3:2.9.90-0ubuntu0~ppa2 amd64 [upgradable from: 
3:2.2.1-1fakesync1]
kde-config-whoopsie/utopic 14.10ubuntu0+git20140731.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
14.04ubuntu2]
kinfocenter/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
kmenuedit/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu2~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
kscreen/utopic 2.0.0~git20140827-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable 
from: 1.0.2.1-0ubuntu1]
ksysguard/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
ksysguardd/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
kubuntu-debug-installer/utopic 14.10ubuntu1+qt5+101~ubuntu14.10.1 amd64 
[upgradable from: 13.10ubuntu1]
kubuntu-driver-manager/utopic 14.10ubuntu1+qt5.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
14.04ubuntu10]
libqapt2-runtime/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
plasma-dataengines-addons/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from: 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2]
plasma-desktop/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable 
from: 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
plasma-nm/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
0.9.3.4-1]
plasma-widget-kimpanel/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from: 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2]
plasma-widgets-addons/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from: 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2]
qapt-batch/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
qapt-deb-installer/utopic 2.2.0+qt5+20140826-0ubuntu1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
2.2.0-0ubuntu2]
systemsettings/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable 
from: 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1]
ttf-oxygen-font-family/utopic 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 amd64 
[upgradable from: 0.4~git20140212-0ubuntu1]

It looks like some plasma-next ppa packages are marked as upgradeable before 
we actually try to install plasma5? These include plasma-nm and plasma-desktop

Note that if we do not do a full-upgrade *before* installing kubuntu-plasma5-
desktop, these packages are not installed.:

0 upgraded, 184 newly installed, 9 to remove and 22 not upgraded

Is this what is causing 
plasma-nm to "disappear"? Should the instructions have us do a full-upgrade 
*before* 
installing plasma5? Or would plasma-nm stop working in either case?



> He correctly did these steps, but only after getting his wireless to
> work with a cli application, and after `apt remove lightdm`
> 
> Valorie

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