What does LTS *actually* mean

[Rafael Belmonte]

For me it means that repositories will be available/online for many years!


2014-01-30 Harald Sitter <apachelogger at ubuntu.com>:

> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jonathan Riddell <jr at jriddell.org> wrote:
> >
> > What does support mean at all in respect to a Kubuntu release?  We
> > don't spend time fixing bugs in old releases generally.  But if a fix
> > is available and is requrested by a friendly user we should do the
> > update.
>
> How would a user request a fix though? Usually that is a bug report,
> but we have a policy to move upstream reports upstream unless they are
> of considerable importance to us. So really there is no forum for the
> user to request a fix backport.
> On a general note though... should we? Because as I see it, if the
> user wants an update for an LTS release then we still need to SRU it
> through one or two not-lts releases. So someone will have to invest
> some time into verifying the SRU (assuming someone even could do it,
> which may not be possible if special hardware is required etc) and I
> am going to go out on a limb an say that this someone won't be the
> user who wanted to stick with LTS to begin with. As explained in some
> other mail, SRUs way too often go south because we are feeling
> particularly irie one day and want to fix the world by doing 300000
> SRUs and then later someone has to set aside time to do verfiication
> in a VM, for releases probably no one cares about to begin with.
>
> > Security fixes from KDE upstream and Qt upstream do get
> > updated.
>
> Perhaps that should be the core target? From an Ubuntu POV from what I
> understand LTS means enterprise release with a very long time frame
> where people can actively push fixes into the release (i.e. the
> support time). I failed to find any policy regarding what goes into
> LTS and what not or when or why. So at least for Ubuntu LTS seems to
> be just that, a SRU target. And if given enough incentive a certain
> fix may or may not get backported. Incentive could of course be
> business reasons in case someone gets paid to do the SRU, or something
> social like when a community member knows a guy who knows a guy who
> has a problem with a specific bug in an LTS so that the community
> member may be convinced to poke people into getting a SRU going.
> Outside this informal incentivation there appars to be no difference
> between an LTS release and the regular intermediate releases.
> Basically you get security update for a bazillion years and perhaps
> occasionally the odd additional bugfix if someone feels particularly
> gracious.
>
> >  And we tend to backport new bugfix and feature releases of
> > KDE SC and other bits.
>
> That's a general thing though isn't it. Again, LTS is only special in
> that we keep doing this for longer than intermediate releases, they
> still both get backports during their respective support time spans.
>
> HS
>
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