Kubuntu PowerPC builds

Ho Wan Chan smartboyhw at gmail.com
Thu Aug 1 13:19:32 UTC 2013

2013/8/1 Harald Sitter <sitter.harald at gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ho Wan Chan <smartboyhw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2013/8/1 Harald Sitter <apachelogger at ubuntu.com>:
>> If you don't care, why should we have it then?
> If we don't spend time on it and it is tested, why should we not have it?
>>>> Don't forget, we aren't exactly Lubuntu, who wants to support every
>>>> single old computer.
>>>> Alternate images are what Lubuntu still wants while we have already dropped it.
>>>> Why should we drop alternate images if we can properly test it, as in
>>>> coherence to our attitude?
>>> We didn't test them, that's why alternate was dropped.
>> Think about this. We only have 1 tester for PowerPC. How many testers
>> do we have for i386 and amd64?
> 1.5. And that 1.5 testers were kubuntu developers. Compared to ppc
> which had 1 who was not a kubuntu developer.
1.5. Seriously? I disagree. For the past few months our testing base
has been increasing.
We have one PPC tester. Lubuntu has 4. And 1 isn't enough for anything.
>> Alternate images  can have a lot of
>> testers. PowerPC will have problems.
> Since no one wanted to test alternate images despite them being easy
> to test but one person tests ppc despite being hard to test, doesn't
> that say something about ppc?
Well, if you enable them I will test them.
>>>> So, what are the pros and cons of removing PowerPC image builds?
>>>> Pros:
>>>> Save testing time on PowerPC builds (and no need to wait for it at all
>>>> before we can release betas or final releases)
>>> AFAIK we'd still have to wait for the other flavors and I don't think
>>> we ever delayed a release for considerable amount of time because an
>>> architecture that is not x86 based wasn't tested.
>> Well, the only flavour who still supports PowerPC except us is
>> Lubuntu, and that's because they really want to support PowerPC, and
>> they actually spend time contacting release teams and testing even the
>> dailies. Not in our case.
> What's the pro then?
I thought the pros are already listed by me...
>>>> Don't have to rely on other testers
>>> If we are spending time testing while relying on other testers to test
>>> then something went terribly wrong...
>> I am sure once we have to contact them since we aren't testing.
> 'ping, testing plz' is a substantial time investment.
We can't just go and always say: "Hey Lubuntu, plz help us". They
aren't being accustomed to Kubuntu, don't forget.
> HS
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