Kubuntu PowerPC builds

[Harald Sitter]

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ho Wan Chan <smartboyhw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2013/8/1 Harald Sitter <apachelogger at ubuntu.com>:
> If you don't care, why should we have it then?

If we don't spend time on it and it is tested, why should we not have it?

>>> Don't forget, we aren't exactly Lubuntu, who wants to support every
>>> single old computer.
>>> Alternate images are what Lubuntu still wants while we have already dropped it.
>>> Why should we drop alternate images if we can properly test it, as in
>>> coherence to our attitude?
>>
>> We didn't test them, that's why alternate was dropped.
> Think about this. We only have 1 tester for PowerPC. How many testers
> do we have for i386 and amd64?

1.5. And that 1.5 testers were kubuntu developers. Compared to ppc
which had 1 who was not a kubuntu developer.

> Alternate images  can have a lot of
> testers. PowerPC will have problems.

Since no one wanted to test alternate images despite them being easy
to test but one person tests ppc despite being hard to test, doesn't
that say something about ppc?

>>
>>> So, what are the pros and cons of removing PowerPC image builds?
>>>
>>> Pros:
>>>
>>> Save testing time on PowerPC builds (and no need to wait for it at all
>>> before we can release betas or final releases)
>>
>> AFAIK we'd still have to wait for the other flavors and I don't think
>> we ever delayed a release for considerable amount of time because an
>> architecture that is not x86 based wasn't tested.
> Well, the only flavour who still supports PowerPC except us is
> Lubuntu, and that's because they really want to support PowerPC, and
> they actually spend time contacting release teams and testing even the
> dailies. Not in our case.

What's the pro then?

>>> Don't have to rely on other testers
>>
>> If we are spending time testing while relying on other testers to test
>> then something went terribly wrong...
>>
> I am sure once we have to contact them since we aren't testing.

'ping, testing plz' is a substantial time investment.

HS