RFC: Switch to Firefox and a 1.5 GB image

Dale Trombley buzzmandt at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 23:42:20 UTC 2011

how much space would be saved by NOT including rekonq on the cd?  would we
get the space needed back to keep the 700mb max size? I am absolutely in
favor of this, rekonq has been a dismal disappointment.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Felix Geyer <debfx at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I'd like to propose switching to Firefox as our default browser.
> We have discussed switching to a different browser more than once in
> the past. I think the arguments against it were "let's give rekonq a
> try and see how it evolves", "we prefer KDE applications" and "no
> space on the CD image".
> At the same time we provide a Firefox installer in the Kickoff menu.
> Isn't that already a strong indication that we should really switch to
> Firefox if possible? :-)
> So here are my arguments why we should switch:
> - I'm worried about the security support of rekonq + QtWebkit.
>  Firefox and Chromium regularly provide security updates while
>  there were none for QtWebkit. I find it hard to believe that
>  it doesn't have any vulnerabilities. In fact the security tracker [1]
>  lists many webkit CVEs.
> - I think rekonq is not stable enough, i.e. it crashes too often.
> - The browser is the most important application so we should provide
>  the best solution available for Kubuntu and not limit ourselves to
>  "KDE-native" applications.
> - The Firefox KDE integration works very well now so we have KDE
>  file dialogs and correct file type associations.
> - It should be obvious that Firefox has superior features. Just think
>  about bookmark and history syncing and the vast amount of extensions
>  available.
> Some may prefer Chromium over Firefox but that isn't in the Ubuntu main
> component so we'd have to convince the MIR team [2]/Canonical to
> guarantee support for the package.
> Firefox requires approximately 20 MB on images. This is too much
> for our 700 MB CD image. Thus I propose that we switch to a 1.5 GB
> USB/DVD image that includes everything on the CD + Firefox + more
> language packs + maybe a few more applications. This also means
> dropping our current DVD image which is imho of very limited use
> anyway [3].
> We would still provide a CD image with rekonq and a very limited set
> of languages (probably just one).
> What are your opinions?
> Felix
> [1] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/main.html
> [2] MIR approval team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir
> [3] It contains the live CD image and an alternate image with all KDE
>    SC packages. Who seriously wants all those packages on his/her system?
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