+1 how much space would be saved by NOT including rekonq on the cd? would we get the space needed back to keep the 700mb max size? I am absolutely in favor of this, rekonq has been a dismal disappointment. <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Felix Geyer <<a href="mailto:debfx@ubuntu.com">debfx@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Hi, I'd like to propose switching to Firefox as our default browser. We have discussed switching to a different browser more than once in the past. I think the arguments against it were "let's give rekonq a try and see how it evolves", "we prefer KDE applications" and "no space on the CD image". At the same time we provide a Firefox installer in the Kickoff menu. Isn't that already a strong indication that we should really switch to Firefox if possible? :-) So here are my arguments why we should switch: - I'm worried about the security support of rekonq + QtWebkit. Firefox and Chromium regularly provide security updates while there were none for QtWebkit. I find it hard to believe that it doesn't have any vulnerabilities. In fact the security tracker [1] lists many webkit CVEs. - I think rekonq is not stable enough, i.e. it crashes too often. - The browser is the most important application so we should provide the best solution available for Kubuntu and not limit ourselves to "KDE-native" applications. - The Firefox KDE integration works very well now so we have KDE file dialogs and correct file type associations. - It should be obvious that Firefox has superior features. Just think about bookmark and history syncing and the vast amount of extensions available. Some may prefer Chromium over Firefox but that isn't in the Ubuntu main component so we'd have to convince the MIR team [2]/Canonical to guarantee support for the package. Firefox requires approximately 20 MB on images. This is too much for our 700 MB CD image. Thus I propose that we switch to a 1.5 GB USB/DVD image that includes everything on the CD + Firefox + more language packs + maybe a few more applications. This also means dropping our current DVD image which is imho of very limited use anyway [3]. We would still provide a CD image with rekonq and a very limited set of languages (probably just one). What are your opinions? Felix [1] <a href="http://people.canonical.com/%7Eubuntu-security/cve/main.html" target="_blank">http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/main.html</a> [2] MIR approval team: <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-mir" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir</a> [3] It contains the live CD image and an alternate image with all KDE SC packages. Who seriously wants all those packages on his/her system? -- kubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>