Musings around environments, cloud credentials, and the new Juju Controllers

[John Meinel]

But does machine-0 show up in environments outside of the controller
environment? I thought we were intentionally hiding it to help keep your
environments cleaner.

John
=:->

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Rick Harding <rick.harding at canonical.com>
wrote:

> No there is still only one state server. It's just that you're auto
> dropped into a fresh environment that is not the main controller admin one.
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 3:52 AM roger peppe <roger.peppe at canonical.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 13 November 2015 at 02:36, Tim Penhey <tim.penhey at canonical.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This means that when we bootstrap a controller, we should create one
>> > environment for managing the controller (the controller environment),
>> > and another empty environment which is the active environment at the end
>> > of bootstrap which the user can immediately start deploying workloads
>> into.
>>
>> Won't this have a significant impact on existing deployments that
>> reuse the state
>> server machine(s) for other units, which can lead to significant cost
>> savings in small
>> environments?
>>
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