<div dir="ltr">But does machine-0 show up in environments outside of the controller environment? I thought we were intentionally hiding it to help keep your environments cleaner.<div><br>John</div><div>=:-></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Rick Harding <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rick.harding@canonical.com" target="_blank">rick.harding@canonical.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">No there is still only one state server. It's just that you're auto dropped into a fresh environment that is not the main controller admin one. </p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 3:52 AM roger peppe <<a href="mailto:roger.peppe@canonical.com" target="_blank">roger.peppe@canonical.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 13 November 2015 at 02:36, Tim Penhey <<a href="mailto:tim.penhey@canonical.com" target="_blank">tim.penhey@canonical.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> This means that when we bootstrap a controller, we should create one<br>
> environment for managing the controller (the controller environment),<br>
> and another empty environment which is the active environment at the end<br>
> of bootstrap which the user can immediately start deploying workloads into.<br>
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Won't this have a significant impact on existing deployments that<br>
reuse the state<br>
server machine(s) for other units, which can lead to significant cost<br>
savings in small<br>
environments?<br>
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