Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

David Van Assche dvanassche at
Tue Sep 9 23:34:07 BST 2008

Asmo is certainly not the only person. I know of at least 10 live
deployments that have no problems with ubuntu/edubuntu. I'm running
pentium 2 500mhz with 128 mb ram as the majority of my thin clients
(must be a good 8-10 years old) and they run like clockwork... the
problems almost always have to do with server configuration and how
the ltsp 5 has been setup there... If you believe jumping to another
distro is going to solve your problems, think again. LTSP is now
distro independent and whatever problems you run into on ed/ubuntu you
are likely to run into on another distro (probably with many more
problems jumping at you first.) Ubuntu is the ONLY distro that has
LTSP as out of the box as it does.

If there are issues with 8.04, then please, by all means note them
down... file a bug report... or at least list them here so we can help
go through them...

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:51 PM, R. Scott Belford <scott at> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Asmo Koskinen <asmo.koskinen at>
> wrote:
>> HP t5125, 5135.
> Edubuntu has had an adverse and destructive effect on the adoption of Free
> and Open Source Software in schools.
> I think Asmo is the only person who has had success with Ubunut/Edubuntu,
> and the brand new clients are a factor.  Many of us use older computers as
> thin clients.  The Ubu/Edu documentation has been inconsistent on what thin
> clients are supported.  I have not yet looked at the LTS.CONF file for
> Hardy, but it is likely a culprit in performance.
> The question is what to do now.  Eric Harrison is not as active with the
> K12LTSP - and the K12LTSP is no more - it is becoming a Fedora Spin with
> RedHat sponsorship.  Warren Togami, fedora founder, is actively involved
> with this.  It is not ready for production, but bugs are being sought and
> squashed.
> Debian-edu, aka Skolelinux, has a responsive mailing list, polite
> developers, and a community will to do good in a responsible way.  Perhaps
> Ubuntu would be wise to build on this element of the Debian community, too.
> The Hardy problems existed in Feisty.  7.04 was the only acceptable
> thin-client server release.  *NOTHING* critical in 7.10 appears to have been
> addressed in 8.04 in spite of the heavy volume of traffic on this list.
> Until someone upstream in the Ubu/Edu projects takes a pro-active and
> cooperative stance, Canonical will continue to abuse the good work of its
> education predecessors by falsely claiming to have a community-based
> solution without the community.
> I still volunteer to run the lab that prompted Warren to start the Fedora
> project in Hawaii.  It was a thin client lab until we moved to 7.10.  This
> completely destroyed the school's taste for thin clients.  Now we use
> stand-alone workstations with central authentication.
> --scott
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