Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

R. Scott Belford scott at
Tue Sep 9 19:51:20 BST 2008

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Asmo Koskinen <asmo.koskinen at>wrote:

> HP t5125, 5135.

Edubuntu has had an adverse and destructive effect on the adoption of Free
and Open Source Software in schools.

I think Asmo is the only person who has had success with Ubunut/Edubuntu,
and the brand new clients are a factor.  Many of us use older computers as
thin clients.  The Ubu/Edu documentation has been inconsistent on what thin
clients are supported.  I have not yet looked at the LTS.CONF file for
Hardy, but it is likely a culprit in performance.

The question is what to do now.  Eric Harrison is not as active with the
K12LTSP - and the K12LTSP is no more - it is becoming a Fedora Spin with
RedHat sponsorship.  Warren Togami, fedora founder, is actively involved
with this.  It is not ready for production, but bugs are being sought and

Debian-edu, aka Skolelinux, has a responsive mailing list, polite
developers, and a community will to do good in a responsible way.  Perhaps
Ubuntu would be wise to build on this element of the Debian community, too.

The Hardy problems existed in Feisty.  7.04 was the only acceptable
thin-client server release.  *NOTHING* critical in 7.10 appears to have been
addressed in 8.04 in spite of the heavy volume of traffic on this list.

Until someone upstream in the Ubu/Edu projects takes a pro-active and
cooperative stance, Canonical will continue to abuse the good work of its
education predecessors by falsely claiming to have a community-based
solution without the community.

I still volunteer to run the lab that prompted Warren to start the Fedora
project in Hawaii.  It was a thin client lab until we moved to 7.10.  This
completely destroyed the school's taste for thin clients.  Now we use
stand-alone workstations with central authentication.

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