Stripped-Down 7.04

David Van Assche dvanassche at
Tue Mar 4 23:45:12 GMT 2008

by following this howto on low fat clients and installing a real minimal
environment in the chroot as mentioned there + rdesktop. could work. I'm
going to test this myself as an alternative to running vmware from the thin
clients: seems like better use of resources.


On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Gavin McCullagh <gmccullagh at>

> Hi,
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Jim Kronebusch wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:41:52 -0800, Mike White wrote
> > > I'll be short. What is the near-most stripped down configuration I can
> > > give Edubuntu 7.04?
> > > I am only using Edubuntu to PXE boot into MS Terminal Service 2003, so
> > > I only need the Terminal Server Client program and sometimes Mozilla
> > > Firefox. I don't need games, printing services, nor development
> > > programs, etc.
> One approach woukd be to install the server edition and then install the
> ltsp packages for the client, openssh-server, gnome-rdp.
> Does rdesktop run on the server or have you installed it into the client
> chroot?  If it runs on the server, you're sending traffic
>        windows <-> edubuntu server <-> thin client
> whereas if you installed rdesktop straight into the chroot, you could have
> rdesktop run on the thin client and directly contact the windows server:
>        windows <-> thin client
> which would likely a bit better.  LTSP kiosks do this, but run firefox on
> the thin client instead of rdesktop. Installing rdesktop on the client and
> having it run automatically should be easy enough on 7.04 actually.  We do
> this to provide web terminals without accounts on the server.
> > > I have already uninstalled Evolution, Thunderbird, Openoffice, and
> some
> > > games. I did this just out of maintenance and noticed the general
> speed
> > > of the clients is MUCH faster. I'd like to go supersonic if possible.
> =)
> I've got to say, that makes very little sense to me.  If the programs are
> sitting idle on the server disk, removing them may save disk space, but it
> won't save any RAM or cpu so there's no real reason this would make
> anything faster.
> "Installing programs slows down your computer" is an old windows wives
> tale.  It has some truth on windows (where programs like winzip, office,
> realplayer, etc. frequently autostart in the background and several
> filesystems have severe fragmentation issues), but it really shouldn't be
> true on linux in general.
> Come to think of it, evolution does autostart some calendar component by
> default so perhaps that's an exception and explains your speed gains.
> Removing most programs should make little or no difference though.
> A small word of warning though.  Upgrades can occasionally be a little
> troublesome where you break from the standard package (ie you uninstalled
> the edubuntu-desktop meta-package if you removed evolution).
> > Ubuntu JeOS might be what you are looking for.
> Maybe, though I'm not sure how well it works in non-virtualised
> environments.
>  "JeOS is a specialized installation of Ubuntu Server Edition with a tuned
>   kernel that only contains the base elements needed to run within a
>   virtualized environment."
> just sort of sounds like it might be missing components needed on real
> hardware.
> Gavin
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