Confusion for Hardy 8.04 Desktop CD

[alan c]

Philipp Schroeder wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> 
> alan c schrieb:
>> I distribute, demonstrate, and install edubuntu (as a volunteer), (and 
>> k/ubuntu also) CDs locally. I am currently very confused about the 
>> 8.04 Edubuntu live CD.....
>> 
>> see
>> http://www.edubuntu.org/Download
>> ========================
>> Try Edubuntu before installing
>> 
>> The Desktop CD allows you to try Edubuntu without changing your 
>> computer at all and has an option to install it permanently later at 
>> your convenience. Note that the Desktop CD is known as the "Live CD" 
>> in releases before 7.04 and is only a workstation solution, it does 
>> not contain Edubuntu's server components.
>> 
>>     1. Get the Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop CD
>>     2. Get the Ubuntu 8.04 educational add-on CD
>> ========================
>> 
>> Is the above information mistaken?
>> 
>> When I follow the link at  item 1. above I am directed either to a 
>> ubuntu only live cd or an add on cd which is appropriate for installation.
>> 
>> Maybe the old style edubuntu live CD is no longer available (?) as a 
>> 'try edubuntu before installing' possibiity, but the above extract 
>> still asserts that it is. However there are confusing messages in the 
>> content nearby, explaining the new and old approaches.
>> 
>> My requirement is a CD which will run 8.04 as an edubuntu 
>> (workstation) live CD.
>> Can anyone clarify the situation please?
> 
> I just realised that the information you mention is indeed incorrect. I
> will remove that misleading paragraph from the website. Sorry for the
> confusion!
> 
> I mistakenly thought it was possible to install the "Edubuntu Desktop"
> meta package from the add-on cd __into the live session__ of a booted
> Ubuntu desktop cd. That won't work, though, because the live session
> needs the Ubuntu cd in the cd-rom drive.
> 
> Krsnendu Dasa's suggestion of making a bootable "live" usb memory stick
> sounds worth trying.
> 
> Best,
> Philipp
> 
> Edubuntu.org webmaster

Thanks Philipp
That sorts the confusion.

Unfortunately, for marketing, demonstration and hand-out activities 
(note 1) it is much better to be able to hand out and demonstrate on 
the spot if needed, a 'Production' released Live CD.

The original  live cds were good for this. Losing them is a loss to 
edubuntu marketing.

I prefer to avoid designing live cds etc by myself - my skills are not 
really in that direction and if they were, the marketing activity is 
partly to show people that a 'brand' or 'product' actually exists.  A 
'Production' version, or an item made by the  central 'Team' of the 
product has a credibility for 'Marketing' which a locally made version 
does not.

I am not suggesting the technical functions are lacking. I see a need 
for more effective marketing, and the loss of distributed live CDs is 
a small step backwards in that sense.

Note 1:
I display monthly on a non trading basis at a local computer fair. 
Although most of the interest centres on K/Ubuntu, Edubuntu is also 
discussed.
-- 
alan cocks
Kubuntu user#10391