Meeting Logs

[David Farning]

For What is is Worth,

How to handle page movements within a wiki is an unsolved problem.
Solutionsl fall somewhere along a spectrum of:
1. Never delete a redirect -- because it might break a external link.
2. Never depend on a wiki page location -- because wiki pages are mutable.

As you move forward you, and the rest of the Ubuntu team, will find
where the project wants to be along that spectrum.

david

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Ace Suares<ace at suares.an> wrote:
>
> Hi Jordan, thanks for the react, just answering a few short points while
> waiting to see if more people have an opinion:
>
>> Thanks for all the detail here. As I said on IRC, I think having this
>> particular discussion before the move would have been beneficial
>> considering the number of wiki pages affected.
>
> Duly noted. Also please note, that previous requests for comments have
> not delivered a lot of attention or answers. Still, a lesson learned.
>
>> it might make more sense to use /MeetingLogs/Edubuntu/ for place to
>> put the logs and navigation.
>
> Indeed, I agree to that. And actually, it's quite simple to do so, Since
> if I move /Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/Logs, it will ask 'include
> subpages' and whammy, ALL are moved. Great to work with the Wiki if you
> abide to it's structure!
>
>>> There is still the issue of
>>> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/Records/Archive.
>>
>> Can those be folded into the logs as with the other records? I don't
>> see a particular reason to carry the "Archive" as it's more trouble to
>> constantly update what constitutes an "archived" log than to just sort
>> by date and ignore the old stuff.
>>
>
> They are really in a totally different format, and it's not so easy to
> separate them and move them into single files. I think it's easier to
> leave then as they are, and just don't make an archive in the future,
> just keep with the new structure (in any location). Please look at that
> page and see if you see it feasible for someone (maybe me) to split that
> file!
>
>> Redirects are a nuisance because they show up as regular pages in
>> normal searches, so they end up doubling the apparent pages.
>
> Exactly my thought. That's why I would want to get rid of as much
> redirects as possible, and there's a Task that states that, and a
> question on the agenda of 28-8 to address that, alas, no clear formula
> was formulated :-(
>
>> I think a
>> better course of attack might be to just use the location (my guess is
>> MeetingLogs/Edubuntu/) that has the most logs and move the other ones
>> to there.
>
> Right, but that would still 'break' pages that formerly where called
> /MeetingLogs/Edubuntu_2007-04-08 (not to mention those that where
> wrongly named in the first place).
>
>>
>> Yes that would be good, it is more of the issue for me.
>
> Please check https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/WikiSite/Tasks and look
> at the Specs one. It's been up there for quite a while and I suspect
> you'd want that discussed before it happens too. (It's been up there
> quite a while).
>
> Also check https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/WikiSite/NewStructure,
> although it's not complete it details the WikiSite structure under
> discussion (since a month).
>
> Let's keep being constructive!
>
> Cheers,
>
> ace
>
>
>>
>> -Jordan
>>
>
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