Meeting Notes (If you didn't attend, please read)

Jordan Mantha laserjock at
Wed Dec 23 21:08:25 UTC 2009

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Jonathan Carter <jonathan at> wrote:
> Greetings
> Below is a summary of what we discussed during tonight's Edubuntu
> meeting. If anything is missing or if you have any questions, feel
> free to reply to this thread.


>  * We're losing our sugar packages, see:

I don't think Edubuntu is loosing much here both in the case of Squeak
and Sugar. For Squeak the reason packages are being dropped is that we
used different naming conventions before Debian packaged Squeak. So
Ubuntu is just dropping the old, deprecated package names.

As for Sugar, the Ubuntu Sugar team had packaged up a whole bunch of
the individual activities. Debian and upstream Sugar didn't like the
idea of shipping those and would like distros to ship just the core
Sugar components and have users get the activities themselves. At
least that was the situation last I heard.

I didn't see any mentions of 2 areas that I think are the most
important for 10.04, bugs and package selections. If 10.04 is really
to be a milestone, "this is what you want to use" release then there
really should be a big focus on bugs. Related to that, if a package is
just not gonna make it because of bugginess, it needs to get dropped
from the package selection. It looks like both gpaint and qcad (which
were high on my "drop" list) have gotten some new life in Debian.
However, screem needs a replacement and kino as well. You might also
look at packages that compliment the current selection that Edubuntu
hasn't traditionally shipped because they were in Universe.

Lastly, 10.04 needs a lot of testing. I can't emphasize enough how
much of a pain it is to have bugs crop up the day before RC and you
have no chance to fix them. Installer and seed bugs especially need to
be fixed early as you don't have much of a chance to test. I noticed
that Edubuntu didn't have an Alpha 1. It's imperative that as many
milestones as possible have an Edubuntu ISO.

Congrats again to the new EC and I'm glad to see meetings are
happening. I'll crawl back under my rock now :-)


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