Discussion about changing application process/rules

Robie Basak robie.basak at ubuntu.com
Mon Nov 15 16:34:43 UTC 2021

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:02:26AM -0500, Dan Streetman wrote:
> The suggestion is to reverse this; make applying via mailing list the
> 'standard' application method, and make realtime IRC meeting
> application the 'exception'.

Here's the copy and paste from my previous response, so it doesn't get

In recent meetings I've been -1 a number of times because I think it has
become evident in a meeting that an applicant is not ready in a way that
wasn't obvious from their written application.

Usually these are social rather than technical things, such as a lack of
understanding of who is in charge of what. I consider this kind of thing
*more* important than technical ability, because when people know who to
ask and understand how we make decisions, then everything else can be
figured out by talking to people.

I think a realtime discussion is the best way to assess this kind of
thing. I remain open to compromising on this on a case-by-case basis
when it is necessary, but I see it as a compromise, not the norm.

I'm therefore -1 on normalising ML applications.
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