Bzr development stopped

[Talden]

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Nicholas Allen
<nick.allen at onlinehome.de>wrote:

> On 11/25/2012 08:36 AM, Michael Haggerty wrote:
>
>> On 11/24/2012 03:58 PM, Nicholas Allen wrote:
>>
>>> I think git is a nice version control system but I could never use it
>>> because it lacks formal rename support and this is very important as a
>>> Java developer. Bazaar is the only distributed version control system
>>> that does this well.
>>>
>> FWIW, we use git at work on a large Java project and have so far never
>> had a problem with git's approach of detecting file renaming and copying
>> on the fly.  Git's approach also has the advantage that it does not rely
>> on the user's using a special command to rename the file.  I would
>> expect that it is more common for users to forget to use the rename
>> command than it is for git to mis-detect renames itself.
>>
> I just don't trust git's approach at all. In Java each class has a file
> and that is the intent so renaming a class should rename the file. We use
> IDE/file manager integration so there's no chance the user forgets to
> rename the file when renaming a class. The file is the object I want to
> track because it represents the class. I don't want to have some
> intelligent algorithm that will have edge cases where it doesn't work try
> to determine what I was trying to do when I know exactly what I'm doing and
> can tell the system easily enough (with Bazaar I don't even think about it
> because that happens automatically).
>

Never mind not trusting it, it's been easy enough to show it breaking
during refactors.  Move a few packages and change a few classnames and
enough of the file changes to make discovering renames an exercise in
fiddling the matching threshold.

And for those shouting "but the developer could forget to tell the VCS so
it's too fragile"... Developers use IDEs.  IDE integration does all of it
for you.  The developer doesn't need to remember.

That said, I've very much appreciated Bazaar "mv --after" for those poorly
integrated tools (IE all of them pretty much and possibly part of bazaar
poor adoption).


> I want a version control system to record as much as possible. It's always
> possible to infer things after the fact from the data but I want the data
> that's input to contain as much info as it can. git doesn't let me do that
> but bzr does.
>

I agree.  Hunting through history for why a change was made, and which
versions of products it might be released in, is made easy with more of
that information.

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Talden
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