Bzr development stopped

[Barry Warsaw]

On Nov 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:

>I'm no longer at Canonical, where most projects are in Bazaar. Almost
>all of my personal projects are hosted in Git these days for practical
>reasons (most people know how to deal with Git), and I thus no longer
>have much reason to use or work on Bazaar. 

It can be a bit difficult to separate the dvcs tool from the code hosting
site, because while they can be used independently, so much of the workflow of
an active project really depends on the sharing, diffing, merge proposal/pull
requests, online reviews, etc. that you get when pairing the dvcs with the
code hosting site.

I am still keeping my personal projects in Launchpad under Bazaar, because I
still think it's the best combination, and I do have to use git+github and
mercurial+bitbucket quite a bit in my daily work routine.  A good example
where Launchpad does a better job (for me) is the much easier way to grab
patches from the site, without having to hack the urlbar to add .diff or
whatnot.

I'll admit bias as well, but I firmly believe that Bazaar has the most
user-friendly cli among the dvcses.  It also has the most flexible model for
helping folks migrate from a centralized system like svn to a dvcs world.

>For myself to be interested in contributing to Bazaar (and I suspect for
>others as well), I think it's important to have a vision for the
>project. Retrospectives would be useful here.
>
>I've considered doing a friendly fork (no CLA's, etc) of Bazaar that
>integrated bzr-git and bzr-fastimport (and perhaps other plugins) and
>switched it to the git format as the default format, rather than 2a.
>That way it would just be another part of the git ecosystem rather than
>its own small corner of the world.

As you know, I've advocated for something like this for many years.  I know
when we've talked about this in the past, it was pointed out that git format
doesn't support everything that 2a supports.  You'd know the details much
better than I, but IIRC, renames and directory tracking were the two main
missing features.  Still, it might be easier to join forces and lobby for
improvements in git format from within.

I don't see Bazaar or Mercurial going away any time soon, but I think git has
basically won top dog.  So I'd vote for making it usable for normal humans by
keeping as much of Bazaar's superior ui and model as possible.

-Barry
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