Choosing a moment for the Bazaar switchover.

Talden talden at gmail.com
Tue Mar 31 23:48:19 BST 2009


> That being the case.  In the time that I have been running
> bzr.notengoamigos.org I have installed 13 different stable versions of
> bzr (not including a few point releases).  It is hard to argue that bzr
> isn't in a state of flux when a new stable version is available once a
> month.

A new stable version a month doesn't bother me.  That the new version
is almost always compelling for everyone suggests that Bazaar hasn't
quite filled it's niche yet - If new features are so broadly
compelling then it suggests fundamental gaps in workflow or UI (bugs
are a different matter and fixes are always appreciated).

Bazaar is still my preferred way forward from Subversion for my
workplace - luckily I won't have to commit to that for some time and
that gives Bazaar time to fill in more gaps (I'm using bazaar
religiously for personal development though).

> The big thing, however, has got to be the repo and branch format issues.
> Anyone that's been paying attention to this list at all knows that the
> bzr team has been working on the new brisbane-core format for some time,
> and that to a large extent it has been designed around the issues that
> have come up with large repositories like the Emacs repository.  I think
> that a large project would be very foolish to switch to bzr before that
> format landed.  Conversions are difficult and time consuming projects
> and the trick is to only do them once.  The last thing that I would want
> for the Emacs development community is to create a new repo in 0.92 pack
> format and 6 months later have a version of bzr comes out that warns you
> to upgrade remote branches.

somewhat agreed - I hope that the Python feedback is somewhat seen (by
the public) as evidence that bazaar is maturing rather than bazaar is
flawed.  Brisbane core & EOLs looks like a major step-forward that
will fill a number of gaps.

Now we just need better GUI tools and IDE integration (IDE and
Intellij for us at least).

> The current default format of bzr is being phased out.  Saying that bzr
> is in a "state of flux" is probably kind.  Heck, I can't even do a
> conversion from git right now into the pack 0.92 format because
> fast-import is broken for that format.  I can, however, create a
> brisbane core repository.

Ouch.

--
Talden



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