[ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

[tonic]

well there is voting

one man, one vote

On Jan 2, 2008 6:02 PM, Justin Rogers <justin.a.rogers at gmail.com> wrote:

> Whatever, that fact remains that there is no leadership or direction from
> the people who can make any decisions. You seem to forget many people, such
> as myself, are on here on their own time at no cost to Canonical and just
> want to help. By not giving these people any direction their hard work is
> going to wast, which to me is an insult.
>
> On Jan 1, 2008 10:40 PM, Troy James Sobotka <troy.sobotka at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Justin Rogers wrote:
> > > I have been watching for about two months now, waiting to see how I
> > can
> > > contribute. Who ever is leading this project, I am still uncertain,
> > have
> > > put very little effort into it overall. I believe we were promised
> > some
> > > sort of direction on the Wiki like a month ago. At this rate there is
> > no
> > > way any new theme will ever get into 8.04. To put it bluntly the
> > > leadership on this project sucks!
> >
> > First, leadership is a wonderful thing to talk about, but
> > a whole other thing to accomplish.
> >
> > Second, you can play a 'mental game' for yourself.  Imagine
> > a list such as this where 100 people submit ideas.  You
> > have your own personal aesthetic.  You have the aesthetic
> > of people who are 'in charge'.  You have individual belief
> > structures.  Now you have 1000 different belief patterns,
> > 100 different submissions, and the various computational
> > byproducts.  What direction do you go?  Every single
> > poor design decision in history has been agreed upon by
> > someone somewhere who thought it was a good idea.  Look
> > no further than this list if you need proof.
> >
> > Third, you have people who refuse to examine the history,
> > wiki, or other easily accessible information out there.
> >
> > As has been made clear a thousand times before, the paid
> > art liason is Kenneth Wimer (aka kwwii on Freenode).  The
> > final art arbitrator of all things Ubuntu is sabdfl -
> > Mark Shuttleworth.
> >
> > 1) No there won't ever be voting.  It is a hideous route
> > to follow for design.  Arguably, it can also be a shortcoming,
> > but voting isn't the answer.
> >
> > 2) kwwii (as per email to the list) has been on vacation.
> >
> > I hope this helps, and I hope that perhaps you will see that
> > the situation isn't nearly as simple as some people would
> > like it to be.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > TJS
> >
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