[xubuntu-users] Fwd: Another road

[Liam Proven]

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 18:31, Wiebe van der Worp <w at vanderworp.org> wrote:
>
> Never knew "Whisker menu" was a separate module, took some time to
> figure out it was and added it - for example. I tend to write things
> down, below plenty of "Tuning XFCE" steps.

Writing things down is good, but the short notes that may be enough to
remind you are not enough to tell strangers what you're doing. :-)

I too find that Xfce needs a bit of tweaking to make it into something
comfortable for me. I did an exercise a decade back. GNOME takes days,
KDE takes days, and the results are unsatisfying. MATE or Cinnamon
simply can't do what I want, notably a vertical taskbar with
horizontal controls on it, like the Windows original.

But my first time configuring Xfce in 10-15 years took only 45min, and
after a few tries on new OSes, it takes me 15min or less now to get it
just how I like it.

For me, that is enough. Xfce does it better than LXDE, while MATE,
LXQt, Cinnamon, Budgie, KDE 6 etc. can't do it right at all. So Xfce
is my go-to desktop.

> Thing is, we have a small mobile off grid NFS network that needs the
> same interface on all machines.

OK...

> Host

So you are running Debian with Xfce in a VM on another OS?

> Could be fresh install, could be 9700X CPU. In server environments
> Debian looks slow but with typical rack hardware it is more a hardware
> thing with overhead of net-boot, hardware pwd's, etc.

I don't think so. I evaluate Linux distros for a living, among other things.

Debian is one of the biggest.

Raspberry Pi OS makes Debian small and simple.

Alpine Linux shows both of them, and Ubuntu, to be massive sprawling
things. While Debian and Ubuntu take in the region of 1GB of RAM and
about 5-7.5GB of disk, Alpine takes 1GB of disk and 100MB of RAM
running the same desktop to deliver the same functionality.

> > There *are* only ESR versions of Thunderbird in recent years.
>
> That is new for me, surprise :-) see:
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/2r4q4bmhtaxgqtaj8vl2k96r5rrv3zn.png

It shows my point. Since Thunderbird 24 (back in 2013) there have only
been versions based on Firefox LTS. There is about 1 major version per
year.

> Are these guys on steroids?

(?)



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