[xubuntu-users] xubuntu-users Digest, Vol 203, Issue 1

Sun Dec 10 15:21:38 UTC 2023

Re: USB boot
It depends on whether you BIOS boot from boot sector or UEFI boot. The
latest Ventoy and other USB preparation software ASSUMES that your system
has EFI and does not properly boot from USB stick on BIOS only systems. I
have an older desktop which still has a BIOS/boot sector boot and have run
into that problem.
I have a solution, but it isn't free. For about $40US, last I checked, you
ca n purchase an external USB DVD writer which you can write a boot DVD and
boot.

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>    1.  USB boot disc? (James Freer)
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>    4. Re:  USB boot disc? (James Freer)
>    5. Re:  USB boot disc? (Ralf Mardorf)
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> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2023 21:29:24 +0000
> From: James Freer <jessejazza3.uk at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [xubuntu-users] USB boot disc?
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> I have just found that the CD-ROM of mine seems to have died just when
> i wanted to install the last version of xubuntu. So haven't been able
> to burn a CD.
>
> Installed USB-CREATOR and followed the instructions [all seemed to
> copy over ok] but the flashdrive does not seem to boot up. I have been
> into setup so it boots first to flashdrive and then HDD. Just boots up
> on HDD... the old version on xubuntu.
>
> I remember trying this a few years ago and had the same problem so
> just continued with burning an ISO to CDROM [DVD]. I would be very
> grateful for some guidance. What else can i try? Can one put the iso
> on a hard drive?
>
> james
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> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2023 18:41:56 -0400
> From: "J. Paul Bissonnette" <jpaulb at eastlink.ca>
> To: xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] USB boot disc?
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> On 2023-12-09 17:29, James Freer wrote:
> > I have just found that the CD-ROM of mine seems to have died just when
> > i wanted to install the last version of xubuntu. So haven't been able
> > to burn a CD.
> >
> > Installed USB-CREATOR and followed the instructions [all seemed to
> > copy over ok] but the flashdrive does not seem to boot up. I have been
> > into setup so it boots first to flashdrive and then HDD. Just boots up
> > on HDD... the old version on xubuntu.
> >
> > I remember trying this a few years ago and had the same problem so
> > just continued with burning an ISO to CDROM [DVD]. I would be very
> > grateful for some guidance. What else can i try? Can one put the iso
> > on a hard drive?
> >
> > james
> >
> Does your BIOS recognize the flashdrive?
>
> I found that USB-CREATOR was a problem so I switched to balanaEtcher.
> https://etcher.balena.io.
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> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 00:20:47 +0100
> From: Kaj Haulrich <kaj at haulrich.net>
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> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] USB boot disc?
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> On 09.12.2023 22.29, James Freer wrote:
> > I have just found that the CD-ROM of mine seems to have died just when
> > i wanted to install the last version of xubuntu. So haven't been able
> > to burn a CD.
> >
> > Installed USB-CREATOR and followed the instructions [all seemed to
> > copy over ok] but the flashdrive does not seem to boot up. I have been
> > into setup so it boots first to flashdrive and then HDD. Just boots up
> > on HDD... the old version on xubuntu.
> >
> > I remember trying this a few years ago and had the same problem so
> > just continued with burning an ISO to CDROM [DVD]. I would be very
> > grateful for some guidance. What else can i try? Can one put the iso
> > on a hard drive?
> >
> > james
> >
>
> If you have an USB stick, then why not just use the Ventoy method:
> https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html
> It's by far the easyest way to install any distro nowadays. No 'burning'
> needed, just download the ISO, copy it to the Ventoy stick and boot the
> whole rigmarole from it. Piece of cake.
> Regards,
> Kaj.
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>       Running Linux Kubuntu 24.04 LTS
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> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 06:45:25 +0000
> From: James Freer <jessejazza3.uk at gmail.com>
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> On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 at 22:42, J. Paul Bissonnette <jpaulb at eastlink.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2023-12-09 17:29, James Freer wrote:
> >
> > I have just found that the CD-ROM of mine seems to have died just when
> > i wanted to install the last version of xubuntu. So haven't been able
> > to burn a CD.
> >
> > Installed USB-CREATOR and followed the instructions [all seemed to
> > copy over ok] but the flashdrive does not seem to boot up. I have been
> > into setup so it boots first to flashdrive and then HDD. Just boots up
> > on HDD... the old version on xubuntu.
> >
> > I remember trying this a few years ago and had the same problem so
> > just continued with burning an ISO to CDROM [DVD]. I would be very
> > grateful for some guidance. What else can i try? Can one put the iso
> > on a hard drive?
> >
> > james
> >
> > Does your BIOS recognize the flashdrive?
>
> How do i check that? I've forgotten a lot of the commands having been
> ill for a year. Much appreciate the reply.
>
> james
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 10:50:15 +0100
> From: Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com>
> To: xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] USB boot disc?
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> On Sun, 2023-12-10 at 06:45 +0000, James Freer wrote:
> > > Does your BIOS recognize the flashdrive?
> >
> > How do i check that? I've forgotten a lot of the commands having been
> > ill for a year. Much appreciate the reply.
>
> Hi,
>
> first of all I want to second Kaj Haulrich reply. Ventoy is terrific.
> You only need to copy an ISO or several ISO to an Ventoy USB stick,
> that's all. If you want to, you can even make a live Xubuntu persistent,
> that's what I've done. However, even Ventoy has got it's pitfalls. On my
> old Intel machine I can use ext4 for the Ventoy USB stick, on my new
> Intel machine, I have to stay with the default fat. I know from a power
> user, author for Linux magazines, that it does not work at all on some
> computers, but even he always recommends Ventoy as the first choice. In
> other words, usually Ventoy works without issues and nothing else is
> more comfortable than Ventoy.
>
> I suspect that your BIOS/UEFI whatsoever thingy does recognize the USB
> stick, but you need to enable booting from an USB device and/or change
> the boot device order.
>
> After turning on the computer push the F2-key or the Delete-Key again
> and again. One of those keys works for almost all computers. Popular
> exceptions seem to be the F1-key or the Fn+F2-key, but there are others,
> as well.
>
> What computer or motherboard do you use?
>
> If you should have a working Linux install on you machine, then run
>
>   sudo dmidecode -t0 -t2
>
> and paste the output. On *buntu the name of the package containing this
> command is "dmidecode", on Arch Linux it's the same package name, so
> other distros probably name it "dmidecode", too.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
>
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