[xubuntu-users] gimp-helping "not available" ...in Firefox 104.0.1

[Alex Johns]

On 5/09/22 22:07, Hans Schneidhofer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think my next distribution for all my work will be even debian. 
> Because there are no needs for snap or flatpak.
>
> My other PC with debian 11 works now for years with soundstudio - 
> without aany problems.
> I think I will also convert my current and last Xubuntu PC to debian.
>
> With debian deb-packages can be installed as usual without all the big 
> problems that snap and flatpack bring with them.
> Such limitations as Ubuntu currently has in my daily work are really 
> not very usefull
>
> I gave up Windows years ago because I didn't find any restrictions in 
> Linux for a long time,
>
> But I have the impression that Ubuntu is starting to become more and 
> more commercialized and wants to do its own thing.
> This is not a good development for Linux.
>
> But it is only my opinion.
>
> bye hans
>
> *********************************
>
> Am Montag, den 05.09.2022, 10:02 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
>>
>>> On 5. Sep 2022, at 09:35, Peter Flynn <peter at silmaril.ie> wrote:
>>> On 5 September 2022 06:07:27 Michael Hoehne <mih-hoehne at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Snaps are not allowed to use "/tmp" because of security issues.
>>>
>>> Does this mean (for example) that I would not be able to Save As... 
>>> to /tmp (eg an image).
>>>
>>> If so, I'm going to need a snap-free distribution. That kind of 
>>> restriction is fine for the amateur or novice, but has no place in 
>>> the ecology otherwise.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> the good news, you can still save an image to /tmp, maybe not an 
>> image shown by firefox, but by any app that isn’t a snap.
>>
>> The bad news, outside of the Ubuntu flavour universe snaps aren’t 
>> accepted, due to the bad design. Alternatives such as flatpak are at 
>> least a little bit tolerated. That snaps are advertised to be 
>> supported by other distros is a blatant lie. The snap infrastructure 
>> might be available by other distros, but snaps are usually unwanted.
>>
>> https://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2022-September/030839.html
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2022-September/012659.html
>>
>> There are countless other issues caused by flatpak and Co., but 
>> especially by snaps. To my knowledge it’s the worst of all.
>>
>> I need a snap free distribution, not because I care about the tmp 
>> issue, just because I want a real long term support distribution 
>> without regular packages that are replaced by a snap, flatpak or Co. 
>> thingy. IOW I don’t know what distro to use for this purpose in the 
>> future, but it will not be Unbuntu with snaps.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ralf
>
Agreed.  I have moved to Debian 11 for this reason.  I use Librewolf as 
a browser which /is available as a deb package

Chris NZ
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