[xubuntu-users] From 16.04 to 18.04
Karel P Coors
kpcoors at gmail.com
Thu Nov 14 19:03:01 UTC 2019
Thanks much
performed clean install and all well now. Except Thunderbird refuses to
accept mu Gmail passwords. So i uninstalled Tbird.
Best regards
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:24 AM Klaus Maas <km at maasser.eu> wrote:
> To Karel and Fritz (further down)
>
> Dear Karel,
>
> just bad luck.
>
> It happened to me once as well when upgrading from 16:04 to 18:04.
> I had two identical systems. On one it worked flawless, on the other it
> didn't.
>
> On all the other occasions (20+) no issues.
>
> Once in while I do a clean install instead of an upgrade.
> (preparing a list of repos and installed software incl. snaps and
> appimages)
>
> Here is non-exhaustive list why:
> - because I can
> - it's faster to install
> but all software needs re-installing
> - I want to reconfigure the system
> - change of software packaging (switching between: default repo / external
> repo / snap / appimage)
> - if I want the new system to use the new default 'setup paradigms'
> - ...
>
> Important ( I almost forgot):
>
> There are no user data on any of the systems I maintain.
> Local data (including email) are always stored externally (USB3 devices).
> So I do not have to worry about maintaining any user data.
>
> Regards,
>
> Klaus
>
>
> Dear Fritz,
>
> it is perfectly fine that you like Windows and that it receives so much
> support from hardware vendors.
>
> But this is a list for Xubuntu.
>
> Quite possible that there is hardware, like in your case, that does work
> on Windows and not on Xubuntu.
> Just to be clear about it:
>
> The hardware support of whatever device in Windows does not come from
> Microsoft.
> The drivers are developed by the hardware suppliers and, when becoming
> popular enough, are bundled into Windows.
>
> So the first address to complain about lacking hardware support in Xubuntu
> (or any non-Windows OS) is the hardware supplier.
>
> Ask them why they don't care about your needs enough to write drivers for
> the OS's you are using.
>
> Even if the hardware you picked up explicitly states that it works on
> Linux and it doesn't, then you still need to complain to the hardware
> supplier.
> Their responsibility.
> Have them write the drivers.
> If the quality is any good, the likelihood for the driver being bundled is
> high.
>
> If you do not like how Linux works then why are you using it?
>
> If you want to work the Windows way, stay with Windows. No better Windows
> than Windows.
> Or try Apple.
>
>
> Start with checking whether your XYX-thingy explicitly claims to work on
> Linux (Linux-distros).
> As opposed to you wanting it or demanding for it to work on Linux.
>
> If it doesn't you may just be out of luck.
>
> Just because you can plug something into your system doesn't mean it is
> prepared to talk to it properly or provide it with the information on how
> to wield its features.
>
> Regards,
>
> Klaus
>
>
> ------------------------------
> On 14/11/2019 12.02, Fritz Roth wrote:
>
> > Michele Mor <m.mor.mail at gmail.com> <m.mor.mail at gmail.com> hat am 13. November 2019 um 11:56 geschrieben:
> >
> > Hi Fritz,
> > for performance you have to take into account that the applications ( not the
> > OS) have been updated and they probably demand more memory.
> > How old is your pc/laptop?
>
> the main problem with xubuntu is the community " support "
> and all the propaganda how low the resources requirement
>
> " that it will work on any old pc a lot better then windows "
>
> compared to what windows ?
> a linux being in the last century ?
>
> so the greatest problem being ...
> that it apparently does not work with
> any usb mobile broad band device
>
> so being worthless for any one
> depending on such an internet connection
>
> one more problem is the need for this terminal use
> I have been using fortran in 1978 with scientific calculators
> have worked with a cad computer in 1986
> using coordinate pcb development
>
> but today we have windows
> making things a lot easier ... faster
>
> but with linux ?
> still using scripts for the general user !
>
> some thing windows does not require
> since window became windows
>
> I want to concentrate on working !
> not on the computer
>
> does any one see ?
> what I am talking about ?
>
>
> > I have been using Linux (xubuntu and fedora) for home and work for the past 5
> > years and they are not a toy ;-)
>
> and you do not even read what I have been writing ?
> just parts of it ?
>
> > Regards,
> > Michele
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 10:33 am Fritz Roth, < fritz.roth at galacticcentral.info
> > <mailto:fritz.roth at galacticcentral.info> <fritz.roth at galacticcentral.info>> wrote:
> >
> > __
> > .
> >
> > no ...
> > this is not bad luck !
> > but simply a good possibiliy
> >
> > from my experience
> > having tried knoppix
> > slax ... Q4OS and now xubuntu
> >
> > all those are miles away from
> > even windows xp etc
> >
> > being just for some one
> > having nothing to do
> >
> > but playing around
> > with his new toy ....
> >
> > linux being a great idea !
> > but the realization ?
> >
> > pure frustration ....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Karel P Coors < kpcoors at gmail.com <mailto:kpcoors at gmail.com> <kpcoors at gmail.com>> hat am 12.
> >> November 2019 um 21:09 geschrieben:
> >>
> >> Here a disappointing experience: upgraded to 18.04 last weekend. Felt
> >> pleasant.
> >> Today hiccups with video streaming, slow Firefox and Thunderbird.
> >> The inevitable warning about an error.
> >> Would not shut down.
> >> Unplugged.
> >> Restarted. Password not recognized.
> >>
> >> Reinstalling 16.04
> >>
> >> Is this just bad luck?
> >>
> >> Best regards
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