[xubuntu-users] From 16.04 to 18.04
Klaus Maas
km at maasser.eu
Thu Nov 14 13:23:49 UTC 2019
To Karel and Fritz (further down)
Dear Karel,
just bad luck.
It happened to me once as well when upgrading from 16:04 to 18:04.
I had two identical systems. On one it worked flawless, on the other it
didn't.
On all the other occasions (20+) no issues.
Once in while I do a clean install instead of an upgrade.
(preparing a list of repos and installed software incl. snaps and appimages)
Here is non-exhaustive list why:
- because I can
- it's faster to install
but all software needs re-installing
- I want to reconfigure the system
- change of software packaging (switching between: default repo /
external repo / snap / appimage)
- if I want the new system to use the new default 'setup paradigms'
- ...
Important ( I almost forgot):
There are no user data on any of the systems I maintain.
Local data (including email) are always stored externally (USB3 devices).
So I do not have to worry about maintaining any user data.
Regards,
Klaus
Dear Fritz,
it is perfectly fine that you like Windows and that it receives so much
support from hardware vendors.
But this is a list for Xubuntu.
Quite possible that there is hardware, like in your case, that does work
on Windows and not on Xubuntu.
Just to be clear about it:
The hardware support of whatever device in Windows does not come from
Microsoft.
The drivers are developed by the hardware suppliers and, when becoming
popular enough, are bundled into Windows.
So the first address to complain about lacking hardware support in
Xubuntu (or any non-Windows OS) is the hardware supplier.
Ask them why they don't care about your needs enough to write drivers
for the OS's you are using.
Even if the hardware you picked up explicitly states that it works on
Linux and it doesn't, then you still need to complain to the hardware
supplier.
Their responsibility.
Have them write the drivers.
If the quality is any good, the likelihood for the driver being bundled
is high.
If you do not like how Linux works then why are you using it?
If you want to work the Windows way, stay with Windows. No better
Windows than Windows.
Or try Apple.
Start with checking whether your XYX-thingy explicitly claims to work on
Linux (Linux-distros).
As opposed to you wanting it or demanding for it to work on Linux.
If it doesn't you may just be out of luck.
Just because you can plug something into your system doesn't mean it is
prepared to talk to it properly or provide it with the information on
how to wield its features.
Regards,
Klaus
email signature Klaus Maas
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On 14/11/2019 12.02, Fritz Roth wrote:
> > Michele Mor <m.mor.mail at gmail.com> hat am 13. November 2019 um 11:56 geschrieben:
> >
> > Hi Fritz,
> > for performance you have to take into account that the applications ( not the
> > OS) have been updated and they probably demand more memory.
> > How old is your pc/laptop?
>
> the main problem with xubuntu is the community " support "
> and all the propaganda how low the resources requirement
>
> " that it will work on any old pc a lot better then windows"
>
> compared to what windows ?
> a linux being in the last century ?
>
> so the greatest problem being ...
> that it apparently does not work with
> any usb mobile broad band device
>
> so being worthless for any one
> depending on such an internet connection
>
> one more problem is the need for this terminal use
> I have been using fortran in 1978 with scientific calculators
> have worked with a cad computer in 1986
> using coordinate pcb development
>
> but today we have windows
> making things a lot easier ... faster
>
> but with linux ?
> still using scripts for the general user !
>
> some thing windows does not require
> since window became windows
>
> I want to concentrate on working !
> not on the computer
>
> does any one see ?
> what I am talking about ?
>
>
> > I have been using Linux (xubuntu and fedora) for home and work for the past 5
> > years and they are not a toy ;-)
>
> and you do not even read what I have been writing ?
> just parts of it ?
>
> > Regards,
> > Michele
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 10:33 am Fritz Roth, < fritz.roth at galacticcentral.info
> > <mailto:fritz.roth at galacticcentral.info>> wrote:
> >
> > __
> > .
> >
> > no ...
> > this is not bad luck !
> > but simply a good possibiliy
> >
> > from my experience
> > having tried knoppix
> > slax ... Q4OS and now xubuntu
> >
> > all those are miles away from
> > even windows xp etc
> >
> > being just for some one
> > having nothing to do
> >
> > but playing around
> > with his new toy ....
> >
> > linux being a great idea !
> > but the realization ?
> >
> > pure frustration ....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Karel P Coors < kpcoors at gmail.com <mailto:kpcoors at gmail.com>> hat am 12.
> >> November 2019 um 21:09 geschrieben:
> >>
> >> Here a disappointing experience: upgraded to 18.04 last weekend. Felt
> >> pleasant.
> >> Today hiccups with video streaming, slow Firefox and Thunderbird.
> >> The inevitable warning about an error.
> >> Would not shut down.
> >> Unplugged.
> >> Restarted. Password not recognized.
> >>
> >> Reinstalling 16.04
> >>
> >> Is this just bad luck?
> >>
> >> Best regards
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