[xubuntu-users] Rookie question on backups
Joao Monteiro
jmonteiro257 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 12 05:51:17 UTC 2017
Hahaha... I substantially agree with you to a great extent, Ralph,
actually, more than I'd expect myself. But... big but (though being skinny,
my butt is tiny lol)
Tell you what, Ralph... give me a few minutes - catching a train home after
12 miserable hours of night shift with damn exasperating windows based BMS
- and I'll start a humble contribution to the community...I'll open a
thread titled "The Devil's Advocate", where I'll play the said role and you
tackle it however you feel like tackling it... and the fiercer your
arguing, the better... on one condition, though...
Your arguing must come from your deepest convictions and with utter honesty.
No... no traps here.
I have received and I am beneffiting much from this xubuntu community. A
rookie goving my first unstable steps. Programatically wise I have nothing
to contribute yet. But I wish to give something back and this is something
that it's within my means and can come to beneffit us all in many ways, if
you're ok with it, as it may bring up valuable insights into pros and cons
of one too many things...
And of course, it goes without saying that everybody's welcome to join
in... though I really like you to take the main role because of your
experience and strong views - take it as the compliment that it is...
I'll open it and we'll take it from there at our own pace... what you say?
:)
Oh... and humour, sarcastic, cynical or ironic alike is always welcome as
well... :)
Kind Regards
Joao
On 12 Jul 2017 06:16, "Joao Monteiro" <jmonteiro257 at gmail.com> wrote:
> True. And yet, in my personal experience, when there is a really urgent
> cry for help, it usually gets answered pretty quicker than I'd expect. You
> don't get that in microsoft land.
>
> On 12 Jul 2017 04:32, "Guang Chao" <guang.chao.1974 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Joao Monteiro <jmonteiro257 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's true, Guang, and I'm quite happy that this xubuntu community is
>>> top notch nice.
>>>
>>> I know that some are hard on beginners because most beginners - let's
>>> face it - just want everything done for them with little or no effort on
>>> their part... but if they were a bit more tolerant, they'd soon pinpoint
>>> those who can't be bothered to help themselves and just focus on helping
>>> the ones who genuinely try...
>>>
>>
>> There is downside also. Because no one is paid, sometimes you need to be
>> patient before help comes.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> But hey... we're all different being all equal.
>>>
>>> Personally, I love this community and it is only a matter of time before
>>> I can get some stability in my life and have the time I need to give back
>>> some contribution within my rookie means... which I'm slowly working on
>>> already ;)
>>>
>>> Joao
>>>
>>> On 12 Jul 2017 01:41, "Guang Chao" <guang.chao.1974 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:13 AM, Joao Monteiro <jmonteiro257 at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Er... no, Guang, I wasn't referring to that. That we can also do it
>>>>> with the cmd in DOS. By being light years ahead of microsoft, I was
>>>>> referring to the prompt and vast cooperation within the Linux community, to
>>>>> help, assist and share their knowledge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas the Linux world is open to all and welcoming and receptive to
>>>>> all equally, Microsoft is a typical corporate beast whose only goal is
>>>>> financial profit.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess it is because Linux has no support for the masses, so we need
>>>> to help each other. Whereas if we buy a product, we have the rights to
>>>> create ticket to vendor.
>>>>
>>>> But for helping each other, it really depends case to case per
>>>> community. Some are really very very nice to everyone. Others are hard
>>>> on beginners.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sharing and the very concept of "free" are Microsoft's worst
>>>>> nightmares and enemies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas around 99% of Linux and Linux based software have the source
>>>>> code readily available out in the open for all to grab, study and use,
>>>>> Microsoft doesn't release its source code - at least not to my knowledge,
>>>>> so if I'm wrong on this one, I also hereby leave my apology to microsoft
>>>>> for this negative criticism.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, even if they already make their source code freely
>>>>> available, they are years behind Linux, hence I stand by my original
>>>>> statement that Linux is light years ahead of microsoft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to clarify, that's all :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards to all
>>>>>
>>>>> Joao
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 Jul 2017 05:23, "Guang Chao" <guang.chao.1974 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Joao Monteiro <jmonteiro257 at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And this is what puts Linux world light years ahead of microsoft
>>>>>>> world....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the pipes and the simple command line utilities, plus some bash
>>>>>> scripting can do wonders. And add cron to that, which is also very simple,
>>>>>> will help you automate everything so easily too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Folks, thank you so much for all your input on this, truly
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm busy to my eyeballs with loads of private life crap on my plate
>>>>>>> and I don't always have the chance to reply straight away, but have no
>>>>>>> doubts that I always read it all and am deeply grateful of all your
>>>>>>> replies... hec, I always get more than what I could bargain for with you
>>>>>>> guys, he he...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will look into the GUI option as well of course, but right now, as
>>>>>>> a new/rookie linus user, I'm trying to carve my teeth into the cli as much
>>>>>>> as possible... and enjoying every bit of the learning curve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, thank you again for this... really really appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards to all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joao Monteiro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2017 01:34, "Guang Chao" <guang.chao.1974 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For general backup to copy your files from one folder to another,
>>>>>>>> or one folder to another machine, rsync is great. Just this one tool and a
>>>>>>>> single command can do many wonders. Very efficient too as it transfer only
>>>>>>>> files that have changes. For more complex stuff, there are many scripts
>>>>>>>> available on github that compress and rotate stuff. For me, if all I need
>>>>>>>> to backup are small files, I actually use git, because it is historical.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Joao Monteiro <
>>>>>>>> jmonteiro257 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Upfront "thank you" for your patience and understanding with a
>>>>>>>>> happy ex-windows-slave, linux-rookie-free-man...lol...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Question:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Windows versions aside, I was used to use the command prompt to
>>>>>>>>> select which files I wanted to backup both from my own as well as from any
>>>>>>>>> other user of the same machine and/or network.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In Linux, though, I haven't yet figured how to do such a selective
>>>>>>>>> backup as a "batch-like" manner...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I won't ask anybody to painfully type the instructions for me... I
>>>>>>>>> just ask that someone please post a link to "where" can I read and learn
>>>>>>>>> about how to do it, as I'm sure there's such a way in linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On a slight different note... I have been reading all the recent
>>>>>>>>> problems from various users... and I'm lost...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Coz I'm running xubuntu xfce on 4 different machines right now - 3
>>>>>>>>> laptops, 1 custom tower with intel core i7, ATI Radeon, Asus motherboard -
>>>>>>>>> and I don't have ONE single glitch anywhere....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That said... after every install on each one of them, I go to a
>>>>>>>>> page that I saved (google "10 things to do after installing xubuntu xfce"),
>>>>>>>>> I do everything therein suggested/recommended, and voila... no glitches...
>>>>>>>>> just blissfully beautiful working machines...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh... yes... screen tearing... not in the 10 things to do... But a
>>>>>>>>> search on screen tearing in xibuntu xfce brings up a script with full
>>>>>>>>> explanation and voila... screen tearing's gone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards to all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joao Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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