[xubuntu-users] Is there a list for *ABSOLUTE* beginners with Xubuntu?

Peter Flynn peter at silmaril.ie
Tue Sep 10 19:54:05 UTC 2013

On 09/10/2013 09:17 AM, David Walland wrote:
> Only to the extent of your reply giving me details of the UK UGs.
> No-one else seems to quite understand how difficult it is to work out
> how to get *in* when you're *out*.  The latest oddments added to my
> question appear to be written in "Outer Swahili" rather than even
> "Outer Mongolian" and appear to have no relationship to beginners of
> whatever level.

David, it would be massively useful to those of us who write technical
documentation if you could point these out precisely, so that we can
re-word them.

I *do* remember how hard it was to "get in", but it was 30 years ago,
and the details have become blurred by time.

> This list has apparently mostly forgotten they had to learn the
> information that I need, to *start* on the learning curve.

Absolutely that. But what I haven't been able to get from what you have
said so far, is exactly *which* bits are causing the problem. I do make
some assumptions: when I teach classes, I *do* require that attendees
know how to use a keyboard and how to move and click a mouse, and that
they know what an icon and a menu are, and that they understand the idea
of a hierarchical file system (family-tree of directories containing

You already know that much, and obviously a lot more, so it must be
something else we're saying that doesn't make sense...but we don't know
what it is.

> [...] the much simpler language of X/Ubuntu is going to be possible
> if I can learn the fundamental "grammar" and basic structure. 

Yes. But to do so I am guessing you need to learn some vocabulary first,
otherwise there won't be any way to communicate the basics. Our problem
is we don't know what bits are causing you difficulties.


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