[xubuntu-users] you have got to be kidding me

Greg Zeng gregzeng at gmail.com
Tue Jun 12 05:16:37 UTC 2012

"nVidea is known to be problematic"

In my stupidity (reading forums only), this what I thought too.  My
systems have AMD and/ or integrated Intel CPU-GPU.  My 'buntu-based
distros easy scales on my non-Nvidia hardware to 2D-1080p.

Trouble starts when I try the 3D & other speedier upgrades.  Various
AMD/ Radeon drivers 'upgrades' usually fail, perform poorly and/ or
buggy.  Visiting the AMD site, they loudly acknowledge this.  On
related forums, the problem is that few if any hardware designers will
consider PC-Linux optimization.  Linux PCs are the one-per-cent

Until Linux coders (generally unpaid or poorly paid persons) get
better organized, synchronizing their efforts instead of re-inventing
crazy, incompetent clones, then Linux PCs (not servers) will be the
low-grade, incompetents that they are now.

I use 'buntu 99% of my time.  Essential, extremely uniquely valuable
stuff is Win7-64 for me.  One-per-cent genius, 99% boring tedium.  I
want 'buntu success, but Linux lacks proper organization for the
masses.  Mass markets demand that the Marketing Department is THE BOSS
of the organization.  Linux PC == Anarchy.  "-(

On 6/12/12, Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wanted to clear up a little confusion here: science doesn't prove
> anything. Scientists do. And let me add to what you said: scientists try to
> prove that there is no God, but how can one believe there is no God, while
> everything is PERFECT? Nobody can tell me that I am just an accident, and
> that I was created so perfectly and everything functions perfectly, out of
> an explosion? :)
> Now, let me add to the discussion here: Yes, nVidea is known to be
> problematic, and that is why I do not recommend computers with it. I am
> sure that installing the correct drivers will work. I am also sure this is
> not an operating system bug. But as you stated, all operating systems
> contain at least one bug. Even Windows and Mac OS X contain bugs. I have
> seen some (well, a lot, actually) in Windows 8 Release Preview. I am sure
> that Ubuntu/Xubuntu contains bugs (because I have found them), but an error
> connecting between hardware and software is not a software-related issue
> (it kind of is, but is not considered a bug). Thanks!
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Greg Zeng <gregzeng at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Love all you Abrahamites:  ONE & ONLY ONE "PERFECT" TRUTH ... TRUE-WAY
>> The god(s) call it "intelligent designer(s)".  The most famous Xtian
>> minister on the planet (Charles Darwin) suggested that evolution shows
>> us that everything might be ALPHAWARE.
>> Human, god(s), "intelligent designer(s)" ... only ever create
>> alphaware.   Can anyone prove us wrong?  IMO all operating systems of
>> every kind IS BUGGY, especially when exposed to unpredictable
>> environments.  Haven't been in "heaven" yet ... but science might
>> prove us wrong.  Our theories are not "The One-&-Only Truth".  Just
>> theory.
>> Silly scientist - us.
>> On 6/12/12, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 06/10/2012 08:09 AM, Joshua O'Leary wrote:
>> >> Nvidia are known to be problematic.
>> >
>> > Not that I've ever encountered. It's the treatment of the driver by the
>> > driver packagers that has been a problem, like with Fedora ppa's that
>> > couldn't agree among themselves as how to properly install it, that was
>> > remedied by installing the driver run file directly from nVidia. That
>> > cured the problem.
>> >
>> > nVidia has treated us pretty well, during times that not everyone else
>> > did. Give the devil his due. Ric
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
>> > "There are two Great Sins in the world...
>> > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
>> > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
>> > http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
>> >
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