[xubuntu-users] xubuntu-users Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1

Tue Nov 1 20:00:18 UTC 2011

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> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:19:54 +0000 From: Neil Winchurst
> <neilwin at drofle.co.uk> To: Xubuntu Help and User Discussions
> <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users]
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> antoinethewiz wrote:
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>>> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:10:50 +0000 From: Neil Winchurst 
>>> <neilwin at drofle.co.uk>  To: Xubuntu Help and User Discussions 
>>> <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>  Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users]
>>> Niel Winchurst Message-ID:<4EAD68FA.6090903 at drofle.co.uk>
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>>> antoinethewiz wrote:
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>>>> Yes, but you can change your keyboard to any language in 
>>>> "Settings>  Settings Manager>   Keyboard>   Layout" anyway.
>>>> As far as the date system goes; well, I'm not sure what you
>>>> mean by "date system". If you mean the clock format, that can
>>>> be changed by alt-clicking the clock in the it's panel and
>>>> selecting properties.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> By date system I mean that in UK we write dates as dd/mm/yyyy
>>> while in the US they use mm/dd/yyyy.
>>> 
>>> Neil
>> 
>> Yep, that would be what I understand as "clock format". So go up
>> to the panel which displays your clock, alt-click it, and select 
>> properties. Under "Clock Options", you'll see "Format" set to
>> "Custom Format". Underneath that there's a text-box. The US will
>> have it set to "%a, %d %b  %H:%M". But since you're in the UK,
>> you'll want to switch up the day and month (%d and %b): like so
>> "%a, %b %d  %H:%M". For more flag parameters, open up terminal
>> and enter "date --help". - --
> OK, I have had a look at that but, it is not the clock that is the
>  problem it is the calendar. Xubuntu uses Orage which does not have
> the facility to set the start day of the week. In my versions of
> KDE (Mint KDE and Kubuntu) I can use the system settings page to go
> to Locale and set the first day of the week. I can't find anything
> like that is Xfce.
> 
> Neil
> 
> "

After a bit of research; I found this: http://goo.gl/DCaeP. Notice
"LC_TIME". This will allow you to change only the date/time rather
than changing things like the keyboard and measurement as well. So,
instead of "export LANG=<def file>", you'd use "export LC_TIME=<def
file>" But I advise you to keep your environment variables as
"en_GB.UTF-8" anyway.

As I understand it: Orage determines the first day of the week from
the locale definition file. If you're using en_GB; it should be set as
Monday. If not, you'll have to edit and recompile the locale
definition file like I said on "Vol. 57 Issue 15". So "first_weekday"
and "first_workday" should be set as "2". You could also leave those
variables to "1" and change the entire day lineup so that is looks
like the below (such that Monday is first).

day  "<U004D><U006F><U006E><U0064><U0061><U0079>";/
     "<U0054><U0075><U0065><U0073><U0064><U0061><U0079>";/
     "<U0057><U0065><U0064><U006E><U0065><U0073><U0064><U0061><U0079>";/
     "<U0054><U0068><U0075><U0072><U0073><U0064><U0061><U0079>";/
     "<U0046><U0072><U0069><U0064><U0061><U0079>";/
     "<U0053><U0061><U0074><U0075><U0072><U0064><U0061><U0079>";/
     "<U0053><U0075><U006E><U0064><U0061><U0079>"

man locale: http://linux.die.net/man/5/locale
man locale: http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=1&topic=locale
man localedef: http://linux.die.net/man/1/localedef
man localedef: http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=1&topic=localedef
EZ locale install: http://lh.2xlibre.net/help/install_locale/

Now, the "date system" is determined directly in Orage. Alt-click the
date/clock panel > Clock Options > Custom format So there's no need to
change the locale definition files here.

You can, however, do this manually. If you wish to do so, navigate to
"/usr/share/i18n/locales" and modify "en_GB". You should set the part
that says "d_t_fmt" as
"<U0025><U0064><U0020><U0025><U0061><U0020><U0025><U0062><U0020><U0025><U0059><U0020><U0025><U0054><U0020><U0025><U005A>"
and "d_fmt" as "<U0025><U006D><U002F><U0025><U0064><U002F><U0025><U0079>".

en_GB locale: http://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_GB/glibc/
locales dir : /usr/share/i18n/locales/

Finally, you can check all your locale setting with the following
commands: "locale LC_TIME", "locale day", "locale first_weekday",
"locale first_workday", "locale d_t_fmt", and "locale d_fmt".
- -- 
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