Docs Meeting Update

Wed May 13 21:24:59 UTC 2020

At the sunday meeting we discussed potentially going with a half USA and
half UK flag[1], which is commonly used elsewhere, though as we have
'English (GB)' as one of the documentation languages, and its using the UK
flag, it doesn't seem that beneficial. Most people don't know the St George
flag, so using it as flag to represent English isn't beneficial. If we had
translations for 'English (CA)', 'French (CA)' and 'English (AU)', they
would have those countries flags.

[1]
http://www.lingualearnenglish.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/flag.jpg

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:17 PM Paul Sutton <zleap at disroot.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 07/05/2020 12:48, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> > I don't know if the language names need "spicing up", but if you insist,
> > I guess you can look at introducing some kind of button style for the
> > language links, ideally matching our website looks (other parts of the
> > documentation follow our websites visual style as well).
> >
> > I acknowledge it's a common thing to use flags to represent languages,
> > but IMO, it's bad practice.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Pasi
> >
> > On 7.5.2020 13.08, Yousuf Philips wrote:
> >> The language names are present below the flags and just having their
> >> names on a blank page doesn't look appealing. Any thoughts of how to
> >> spice it up if we were to only use the language names.
> >>
> >> It is quite common for flags to be used as language representatives,
> >> like for example in the keyboard layouts panel plugin as alternative
> >> for language name abbreviations.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Yousuf
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:09 AM Pasi Lallinaho
> >> <pasi at shimmerproject.org <mailto:pasi at shimmerproject.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     My suggestion is to use the language names as they are
> >>     representative of languages. Or in other words, languages do not
> >>     have any sensible representative images, so I would not use any.
> >>
> >>     Cheers,
> >>     Pasi
> >>
> >>     On 6.5.2020 17.57, Yousuf Philips wrote:
> >>>     So what would be your suggestion and an image related to languages?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:34 AM Pasi Lallinaho
> >>>     <pasi at shimmerproject.org <mailto:pasi at shimmerproject.org>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>         Please, no flags for languages, as they are not representative.
> >>>
> >>>         Cheers,
> >>>         Pasi
> >>>
> >>>         On 5.5.2020 22.00, Yousuf Philips wrote:
> >>>>         Hi Team,
> >>>>
> >>>>         Here is my idea of what the docs homepage could look like,
> >>>>         in two variations.
> >>>>         https://imgur.com/a/04nvIt6
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>         On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 5:11 PM Yousuf Philips
> >>>>         <ypharis at gmail.com <mailto:ypharis at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>             Hi Team,
> >>>>
> >>>>             We had the meeting yesterday which Sean, Bernardo,
> >>>>             Stephen, and I attended, where we discussed our plans to
> >>>>             improve the documentation. Various meeting minutes were
> >>>>             put into the main google doc[1] and we plan to meet once
> >>>>             a week to discuss things to keep the pace of work going
> >>>>             forward. Each week we'll be working on a single docs
> >>>>             page/chapter, in a google doc I prepare, so that we all
> >>>>             have a central place to collaborate on its improvement,
> >>>>             and can also reach out to the community to contribute
> >>>>             to. At each meeting we'll review the page's edits and
> >>>>             finalize it and then it will be copied over to the git
> repo.
> >>>>
> >>>>             Sean will be investigating various options to make it
> >>>>             easier for contributors to help keep the docs up to
> >>>>             date. A telegram group[2] has been created for those
> >>>>             that want to be involved and we can bridge it with a
> >>>>             #xubuntu-docs irc channel if there are those wanting it.
> >>>>
> >>>>             So for this week, we'll be improving the main
> >>>>             documentation homepage[3] in this google doc[4]. During
> >>>>             the meeting we agreed upon these changes
> >>>>             * As this page is not translated, the useful parts of
> >>>>             the contents of this page will move to the Table of
> >>>>             Contents (ToC) page, so that it can be translated.
> >>>>             * The page would become just a language selector which
> >>>>             leads to the translated ToC page.
> >>>>
> >>>>             People can suggest ideas of how this language selector
> >>>>             page can look in the google doc[4] or on the mailing list.
> >>>>
> >>>>             Regards,
> >>>>             Yousuf
> >>>>
> >>>>             [1]
> >>>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oGNc4nDmUkhk67-S07VKhOQ7tSWXUW6ureG8N7SVM_o/edit#
> >>>>             [2] https://t.me/joinchat/CVgtjBP82eyMqVzhScdfAw
> >>>>             [3] https://docs.xubuntu.org/2004/
> >>>>             [4]
> >>>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Aj_Wdj9Uq62Ju0bvjhz15NVdaI_SaAMo8xqdU9s67YE/edit#
>
>
> I agree about not using flags,  if you're going to use flags, perhaps
> use the flag of St George to represent English.  Having the GB and US
> flags, we both speak English. what about Canada,  Australia and other
> countries where the first language is English.   But Canada is both
> French and English and regions are very protective of that part of their
> culture.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Paul
>
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Regards,
Yousuf
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