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George DiceGeorge dicegeorge at
Wed Mar 22 12:14:36 UTC 2017 are working on a PAE linux.

I believe that when we boot from a USB stick etc it should analyse our system and report whether we would be better off with a 64bit or 32 bit system, whether xubuntu will work ok on it, and if not advise on what other linux distro might work, and advise on partitions, free space etc


On 22/03/2017 11:41, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
Hello Gary,

while I see where you're coming from, I think there are a few good reasons not to mention the forcepae option.

First, I believe the group of potential users with processors that can support PAE with the forcepae is relatively small (note: we do not have any exact numbers on this, it's just an educated guess). In any case, even if the group was larger than we expected, it would still be a minority.

That said, any extra mention we make about PAE or any other thing that doesn't affect the majority of users will make the threshold to try Xubuntu for some people bigger.

We already hear from people who have problems figuring out which ISO they need to download (32- or 64-bit), how they can do it (should they use Torrents or direct downloads), how they can get it on a USB stick correctly... I understand these aren't necessarily related, but they all add to the same process a new user has to go through. This is the reason why we very recently edited this page to be more concise and clear – there are no longer different system requirements for trying/installing and running.

Last, if we were to include a mention about forcepae, we would very likely want to write our own compact guide (probably in a blog article format) about it rather than link to the community-editable wiki; while that is a good resource for many things (and I say this as an administrator of that wiki), it has its shortcomings and thus I don't consider it a sensible outlet to refer to in a spot that so important for us – again: where people either decide to install or not.

I would happily hear from other team members on this though; do we think a mention about forcepae is necessary?

Thanks for the attention to detail and positive feedback on Xubuntu – I'm happy to hear you are enjoying Xubuntu!


On 2017-03-11 21:20, fmandnu wrote:
On your documentation page at: you have the statement: “Your processor needs to support PAE in order to run Xubuntu.” This is correct but I think that you should also mention that some processors support PAE but still will not run because the flag does not show in the kernel. I think that this sentence on your web page should include a mention of “forcepae”. There should also be a link to the Ubuntu PAE Community Help Wiki that explains “forcepae” and that it can be used with the Xubuntu install. Other distros have this link and at first I did not think that Xubuntu also allowed “forcepae” until I tried it.

By the way, I’m very happy with Xubuntu on my old Pentium M+ computer. I finally got rid of Microsoft XP! Hahaha… Xubuntu is a major improvement to the point where my old notebook is now (almost) running like a modern computer. Thanks for all your work on Xubuntu. I’m happy to be running the XFCE desktop.

Best Regards,
Gary M.

Pasi Lallinaho (knome)                    ›
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