[TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes
jacksulmail at gmail.com
Mon Aug 22 21:37:36 UTC 2016
I like Xubuntu with pure XFCE.
Xubuntu is as pure as Debian with XFCE with the advantage of being an
I think Xubuntu perfect the way it is
Jack Pogorelsky Junior
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E-mail: jack at sulmail.com
Em 22/08/2016 16:28, Mark F escreveu:
> I'm a new Xubuntu user. I've been using Lubuntu for over a year. I saw
> this topic in the mailing-list archives and thought this post
> (questions, observations) might be welcome here. I think it ties into
> I looked at Mint Xfce and, to be honest, I like it *much* more. The
> only reason I went with Xubuntu is the larger community of support
> (Ubuntu's forums). I'd rather try to make Xubuntu better than to
> contribute to a fork.
> What I'm wondering is whether you guys ever evaluate Mint Xfce and
> consider evolving the desktop in that direction? Is it ever even
> discussed? (Is there a way to find a past discussion like that in the
> mailing-list archive?).
> For example:
> - Wisker menu progresses right to left (categories are on right open
> to reveal contents on the left). Using MintX, right-to-left stood out
> to me immediately as more intuitive.
> - Right/left clicking on taskbar entries seems unintuitive to me. It
> seems like left clicks are passed through the applet and into the
> underlying taskbar. (Right clicks access the applet's options?). MintX
> seems to have addressed this. It works differently.
> - Wisker menu's categories automatically reveal content by mousing
> over each one. (No click required).
> - How is inclusion into Wisker's "Settings" and "System" chosen? It's
> like everything is in Settings. I'm not sure I could differentiate
> between those two categories. But, it seems like no differentiation is
> occuring. (But, it is because two items are in "System.").
> - A lot of things seem unintuitive to me. What's called "[Distro]
> Software Center" in other distros is just "Software" in Xubuntu. It's
> in the "Favorites" category, not in "System" nor "Settings."
> - The "Software" tool seems very slow and uninformative compared to
> Lubuntu's "Software Center" (And MintX's). I tried to install
> Keepass2, which was available in Lubutu's software center. It's not in
> - I found a Keepass package, but it made me authenticate with my
> Ubuntu single-signon. It wouldn't authenticate me, giving a
> repeated error (even though I can login to the Ubuntu One site). I
> like the goal behind this. But, it's a free package. I shouldn't
> have to go through these hurdles. It's a *big* problem if I can't
> access my passwords in a new install.
> - Menu bar on top. Not easy to figure out how to put it on the bottom.
> Not "mainstream" if you're trying to appeal to new users (familiar
> with Windows)?
> So, I'm just wondering (in terms of marketing, appealing to more
> users), has this topic ever come up before? Evaluating what draws
> people to other Xfce environments? What the others are doing right?
> Why they chose to fork (and duplicate efforts)? Would it make sense to
> solicit surveys (instead of testimonials)?
> I hope this doesn't sound like I'm complaining. I understand no
> desktop will meet everyone's needs. But, this thread implies outreach,
> seeking to gain popularity. MintX seems more popular (according to
> distrowatch?). I'm just wondering if this discussion has ever
> occurred? (I.e., should Xubuntu try to incorporate any of MintX's
> Is it possible to install MintX's desktop in Xubuntu? Would it make
> sense to offer that desktop more clearly (or a desktop made
> specifically to be more like MintX, so people who might choose that
> distro could more easily choose Xubuntu?).
> Again, I hope I'm not causing a problem. This topic seemed to be about
> advocacy, increasing relevancy. Since I've just been comparing Xfce
> desktops, the topic of "why is Xubuntu's desktop the way it is?"
> seemed like a natural question. It makes me wonder if anyone has gone
> back to "square one" and questioned everything. (When I see everything
> lumped into "Settings," I get the impression that discussion hasn't
> occured. The desktop is just an evolution and hasn't been re-thought
> from the ground up?).
> I look forward to reading responses. I just feel like something is
> missing. Ubuntu has the support and immediacy of security patches.
> But, Mint has the appeal to new users (IMO). I just wonder if anyone
> has tried to bridge that gap.
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